This is particularly annoying as it’s an important subject and a debate we should be having, but it’s been hijacked as an anti-Brussels tirade again. Lighting technology develops all the time and it’s important to get the facts straight and discuss the merits of banning incandescent bulbs. Personally I’m concerned as almost all my lights have dimmers on them, but hopefully there will be more choice of bulbs soon (only one energy-saving bulb is currently 100% compatible with dimmers and it’s hard to find).
But hey…just make people panic instead. I suspect that in a few years time, dead pensioners will be found in their houses with no food, but thousands of incandescent light bulbs in the cupboards.
Mail readers should live in a world of candles and gas lamps. The whole point of the story is that is a EU directive, that evil place across the Channel where they eat dogs and babies and use the Euro!
Of course this isn’t about light bulbs at all. It’s about the government/nanny state/EU.
I’m sure there are other subjects worthy of the front page.
By the way, did anyone see Littlejohns page yesterday. it featured a picture of the New Zealand branch of his “fan club”. – These people clearly have no shame.
I did spot a Kiwi edition of the Daily Express when I was in Rotarua in at the end of October. Didn’t spot a Mail and resisted the urge to buy it, the back packers being well equipped with bog roll.
’supermarkets arn’t stocking these outdated wastful bulbs any more and as such, due to normal buying habits, said bulbs are pretty scarce on the gound’
fixed. I actually read the cover today – in the text proper it actually says that people are (paraphrasing) ‘panic-buying’ the last of their ‘beloved, traditional, great british’ ‘bulbs.
“Robbed of the right to buy traditional lightbulbs”. Why, is this another evil plan by Gordon McBroon and the EU to steal our supples and destablise us?
But as some other people have said, use this as the initiative to buy fucking energy-saving bulbs DE Readers! We all know how you waste so much energy with your ‘traditional’ bulbs, so why not save the environment for a change by usins low-energy ones? There are loads of them left!
I read LJ’s column as well. His fan club clearly have no life. Mel Philips has annoyed me the most this week though with her take on the crisis in Gaza. Quite frankly though, the entire media have done a poor job altogether actually talking about any of the issues behind the Gaza story. It’s either, “It’s all Isreal’s fault” or “It’s all Hamas’s fault”
They’re both in the wrong so shut up and call for a ceasefire.
Yeah, I saw that too aljardi. Littledick is beyond belief. He says that they’re all Brits who fled to NZ after Labour’s 1997 victory. Also, after the victory, he wrote an article saying “Emmigration is the only hope”. Charming. So he attacks immigrants in this country really strongly, but tells his fans to emmigrate around the world all they like! Fucking hypocrite.
“They’re both in the wrong so shut up and call for a ceasefire.”
That’s something that’s struck me recently, Joe Public’s unwillingness to apportion multiple blaim. There’s always for them got to be a single cause. Mail readers will say “Why should I change my lightbulbs when China is building power stations?”, when in effect they’re both wrong. The same goes for the Middle East; Hamas are wrong for bombing Israelis, Israel are wrong for bombing Palestians, they’re both wrong for basing their hatred around believing in different fairy tales, and the wider world is wrong for taking “a side”, instead of condemning both. Such multidimensional thinking is no doubt beyond the Mail and its readers though.
Actually I can see myself kicking up a stink if they ever try and do away with FM radio.
Lets count them…
Two in bedrooms, one in the study, one in the bathroom (showerproof), one in the kitchen (DAB), one in the mobile phone, one in the car, one in the study (built into the hifi), one windup for taking camping, one in my mp3 player. Plus whatever the lodger’s got.
That’s eight radios to replace! And my parents have more.
The “Daily Fail” ’s lightbulb story is just a load of fuss over nothing. There are far more important issues they could be reporting on. It’s not exactly the end of the world, is it????
P.S> By the way, congratulations on the new-look “Mailwatch”.
I’m sure that I’ve read about the oncoming incandescent bulb ban – effective from January 2011 I believe – some time ago. That The Mail deem this old story more important than the lost lives of forty people in the Middle East is nasty. No doubt I’ll be reading about the bulbs again in tomorrow’s Daily Telegraph – they have quite a knack for printing stories a day after The Mail.
My only beef with energy saving bulbs is that they tend to be dimmer than ‘traditional’ bulbs. Otherwise they are superb. I’ve had one in my cloakroom and another on my landing and both bulbs have lasted approximately three years. The technology will probably be improved by 2011, hopefully yielding brighter bulbs. This would leave a gaggle of Mail readers with older style bulbs that – hooray – will be just as bright as newer energy saving bulbs, but will burn out after six months. The looks on their faces will be priceless.
The lightbulb story was in today’s Daily Telegraph, just as I predicted. It’s not even certain that older style bulbs are to be banned as the relevant vote hasn’t been taken. If they are banned the ban will be effective from September 2012.
Matt Hurst: you’re damn right. It used to be the case that you had to die to be a martyr. Now all you have to do is whinge about people being forced to buy their veg in grammes and kilos rather than ounces and pounds. The UK is one of only three countries worldwide that shun the use of metric: us, the USA and flippin’ Burma.
to avoid upsetting the DM/De brigade i have decided to go back to candles.Do they still make them here? or will I have to use Chinese/.
What a predicament this man Brown has left me .
Some of you left leaning twits just don’t get it do you?Its not about lightbulbs it’s about freedom of choice and the more you idiots swallow the propaganda put out by this abomination of a government the more we lose our freedom hard won by generations of free Englishmen!
>Its not about lightbulbs it’s about freedom of choice
If this were the government stopping people from buying lightbulbs then I’d see your point. But it isn’t, it’s the government stopping the sale of an outdated and inefficient form of lightbulb for a much better one which *saves money*. Complaining about it is like complaining that you still want to buy aerosols with CFCs in them or complaining about the government switching analogue TV broadcasting off. This isn’t actually telling people “you can’t do this any more”, it’s telling them “you can’t use the old version any more so you’ll have to use the new one instead”.
A while ago there was a genuine argument about incandescents being used in bathrooms and the like because energy-savers used to take ages to “warm up” but modern ES bulbs hardly do this any more so that argument is pretty-much gone.
Thanks for returning with your views, which I quite accept. BUT what I didn’t say was that my grandson,who we care for on a 24/7 basis, is subject to epilepsy. Until you have held a child in your arms who is racked with convulsions and you fear that he could die, then I really don’t think that you can say that we have freedom of choice or that the change over is progress.My grandson and other people that suffer from photo-sensitive epilepsy need the freedom to make the decision that is an elementary right of protection of their health, which appears to have escaped notice.Plus the fact that unless these new bulbs are left on continually they do not save money, and the Mercury contained within them is toxic
The great lightbulb revolt is worrying.Do people have nothing better to do than go lightbulb shopping?What were candles invented for?
GREAT LIGHTBULB REVOLT – big headline
40 Killed in Gaza school – shunted to the side of the page
Good old Daily Mail. Now start using energy saving light bulbs you stupid gits.
Gaah. Stupid provocation of panic buying again.
This is particularly annoying as it’s an important subject and a debate we should be having, but it’s been hijacked as an anti-Brussels tirade again. Lighting technology develops all the time and it’s important to get the facts straight and discuss the merits of banning incandescent bulbs. Personally I’m concerned as almost all my lights have dimmers on them, but hopefully there will be more choice of bulbs soon (only one energy-saving bulb is currently 100% compatible with dimmers and it’s hard to find).
But hey…just make people panic instead. I suspect that in a few years time, dead pensioners will be found in their houses with no food, but thousands of incandescent light bulbs in the cupboards.
Mail readers should live in a world of candles and gas lamps. The whole point of the story is that is a EU directive, that evil place across the Channel where they eat dogs and babies and use the Euro!
Good old Daily Mail!
Of course this isn’t about light bulbs at all. It’s about the government/nanny state/EU.
I’m sure there are other subjects worthy of the front page.
By the way, did anyone see Littlejohns page yesterday. it featured a picture of the New Zealand branch of his “fan club”. – These people clearly have no shame.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1106185/LITTLEJOHN-Welcome-2009-Heads-lose-tails-doomed.html
I did spot a Kiwi edition of the Daily Express when I was in Rotarua in at the end of October. Didn’t spot a Mail and resisted the urge to buy it, the back packers being well equipped with bog roll.
‘millions are clearing shelves of last supplies’
’supermarkets arn’t stocking these outdated wastful bulbs any more and as such, due to normal buying habits, said bulbs are pretty scarce on the gound’
fixed. I actually read the cover today – in the text proper it actually says that people are (paraphrasing) ‘panic-buying’ the last of their ‘beloved, traditional, great british’ ‘bulbs.
WAT was the word I think I used
Nice to see they have their priorities sorted!
Loving the mad commenters who are stockpiling enough high-energy bulbs to last for the rest of their lives.
“Robbed of the right to buy traditional lightbulbs”. Why, is this another evil plan by Gordon McBroon and the EU to steal our supples and destablise us?
But as some other people have said, use this as the initiative to buy fucking energy-saving bulbs DE Readers! We all know how you waste so much energy with your ‘traditional’ bulbs, so why not save the environment for a change by usins low-energy ones? There are loads of them left!
I think that “revolt” is a hint.
I read LJ’s column as well. His fan club clearly have no life. Mel Philips has annoyed me the most this week though with her take on the crisis in Gaza. Quite frankly though, the entire media have done a poor job altogether actually talking about any of the issues behind the Gaza story. It’s either, “It’s all Isreal’s fault” or “It’s all Hamas’s fault”
They’re both in the wrong so shut up and call for a ceasefire.
Yeah, I saw that too aljardi. Littledick is beyond belief. He says that they’re all Brits who fled to NZ after Labour’s 1997 victory. Also, after the victory, he wrote an article saying “Emmigration is the only hope”. Charming. So he attacks immigrants in this country really strongly, but tells his fans to emmigrate around the world all they like! Fucking hypocrite.
“They’re both in the wrong so shut up and call for a ceasefire.”
That’s something that’s struck me recently, Joe Public’s unwillingness to apportion multiple blaim. There’s always for them got to be a single cause. Mail readers will say “Why should I change my lightbulbs when China is building power stations?”, when in effect they’re both wrong. The same goes for the Middle East; Hamas are wrong for bombing Israelis, Israel are wrong for bombing Palestians, they’re both wrong for basing their hatred around believing in different fairy tales, and the wider world is wrong for taking “a side”, instead of condemning both. Such multidimensional thinking is no doubt beyond the Mail and its readers though.
I wasn’t aware that I had a ‘right’ to purchase a certain kind of lightbulb. If only I’d known.
Fucking hell first the dustbins, then lightbulbs what next.
”The Great Toilet Brush Revolt”
I can see the mail kicking up a stink when we go digital.
‘Gordon Mc Stalin wants to force us to have more channels and better picture’.
Actually I can see myself kicking up a stink if they ever try and do away with FM radio.
Lets count them…
Two in bedrooms, one in the study, one in the bathroom (showerproof), one in the kitchen (DAB), one in the mobile phone, one in the car, one in the study (built into the hifi), one windup for taking camping, one in my mp3 player. Plus whatever the lodger’s got.
That’s eight radios to replace! And my parents have more.
The “Daily Fail” ’s lightbulb story is just a load of fuss over nothing. There are far more important issues they could be reporting on. It’s not exactly the end of the world, is it????
P.S> By the way, congratulations on the new-look “Mailwatch”.
Pointless winging about something that is suppost to help folk save money. Won’t be long before they start moaning about ‘rip-off Britain’ again
I’m sure that I’ve read about the oncoming incandescent bulb ban – effective from January 2011 I believe – some time ago. That The Mail deem this old story more important than the lost lives of forty people in the Middle East is nasty. No doubt I’ll be reading about the bulbs again in tomorrow’s Daily Telegraph – they have quite a knack for printing stories a day after The Mail.
My only beef with energy saving bulbs is that they tend to be dimmer than ‘traditional’ bulbs. Otherwise they are superb. I’ve had one in my cloakroom and another on my landing and both bulbs have lasted approximately three years. The technology will probably be improved by 2011, hopefully yielding brighter bulbs. This would leave a gaggle of Mail readers with older style bulbs that – hooray – will be just as bright as newer energy saving bulbs, but will burn out after six months. The looks on their faces will be priceless.
ROBBED OF THE RIGHT TO BUY OUTDATED TECHNOLOGY THAT COSTS MORE IN THE LONG-TERM!!!!
People stil buy old style lightbulbs?
Will there be Lightbuld Martyrs…if so the word Martyr will be disgraced forever espically after the discrediting it took from the Metric ones.
The lightbulb story was in today’s Daily Telegraph, just as I predicted. It’s not even certain that older style bulbs are to be banned as the relevant vote hasn’t been taken. If they are banned the ban will be effective from September 2012.
Matt Hurst: you’re damn right. It used to be the case that you had to die to be a martyr. Now all you have to do is whinge about people being forced to buy their veg in grammes and kilos rather than ounces and pounds. The UK is one of only three countries worldwide that shun the use of metric: us, the USA and flippin’ Burma.
Talking of which, what do metric martyrs measure the power of their bulbs in?
to avoid upsetting the DM/De brigade i have decided to go back to candles.Do they still make them here? or will I have to use Chinese/.
What a predicament this man Brown has left me .
Three even giving away 25,000 100watt light bulbs but tomorrow they’ll be moaning about their elecy bills!
Pathetic w@nkers.
Your Daily Mail types were probably against their towns getting on the elcetric back in the day given their aversion to all things progress linked.
Some of you left leaning twits just don’t get it do you?Its not about lightbulbs it’s about freedom of choice and the more you idiots swallow the propaganda put out by this abomination of a government the more we lose our freedom hard won by generations of free Englishmen!
Twat.
And on a less chidlish note;
how is “energy saving lightbulbs save you money!!!!!” propaganda? I now refer you back to my previous comment.
I may be a twat but I am an intelligent twat unlike you
>Its not about lightbulbs it’s about freedom of choice
If this were the government stopping people from buying lightbulbs then I’d see your point. But it isn’t, it’s the government stopping the sale of an outdated and inefficient form of lightbulb for a much better one which *saves money*. Complaining about it is like complaining that you still want to buy aerosols with CFCs in them or complaining about the government switching analogue TV broadcasting off. This isn’t actually telling people “you can’t do this any more”, it’s telling them “you can’t use the old version any more so you’ll have to use the new one instead”.
A while ago there was a genuine argument about incandescents being used in bathrooms and the like because energy-savers used to take ages to “warm up” but modern ES bulbs hardly do this any more so that argument is pretty-much gone.
Thanks for returning with your views, which I quite accept. BUT what I didn’t say was that my grandson,who we care for on a 24/7 basis, is subject to epilepsy. Until you have held a child in your arms who is racked with convulsions and you fear that he could die, then I really don’t think that you can say that we have freedom of choice or that the change over is progress.My grandson and other people that suffer from photo-sensitive epilepsy need the freedom to make the decision that is an elementary right of protection of their health, which appears to have escaped notice.Plus the fact that unless these new bulbs are left on continually they do not save money, and the Mercury contained within them is toxic
Incandescent light bulbs will soon be phased out because they waste a lot of energy.*’`