Daily Express amazed as it becomes clear that the cost of living in Eastern Europe, less than twenty years into captialism, is less than that of the UK, major initiator of the industrial revolution and major capitalist power for hundreds of years.
First of all, thanks Mailwatch for putting this page on like I asked!
But this is a classic front page today. The bash immigrants in their main story (as usual), yet they comiserate with Kevin Pietersen, who’s South African!
In other news, “How to survive the big freeze”-wear warm clothes and light a fire in the evening. Not exactly hard!
Sadly there is no detail of how this £715 figure is arrived at. It just seems to have been a number plucked out of thin air by the Tax Payers Alliance.
According to the Departmetn of Work and Pensions, Jobseek’s allowance is £60.50 per week. Plus something for housing benefit in there I guess.
Recently I’ve become aware of someone from Sweden who is living in the UK and is very shortly about to give birth. She lost her job a few months ago and was unable to gain more employment, because of pregnancy and instead went on to jobseeker’s allowance and council tax/ rent support. Recently she was encouraged to claim income support and upon finding out she wasn’t British, the DWP and council stopped all her benefits and now she’s got no money and a sproglet on the way.
So, Daily Express, don’t try telling me that we’re handing out benefits left, right and centre to immigrants because we’re quite clearly not.
Chuh, never happy are they. Immigrants who work here are nicking all our jobs. If they don’t work, they’re idle bum sponges.
Point of order, by the way. The £715 per week is for a family of four – not exactly rich pickings to support a family with. And given these benefits apply to everyone, it’s strange to think Express only considers immigrants unworthy of making such a claim.
So let me get this right. These immigrants have worked in this country, paid tax and NI contributions and then find they can claim benefits when they become unemployed.
…What’s the problem?
I’m sure they are subject to the same rules as everybody else in that position. i.e. They need to prove they are actively seeking alternative employment etc etc. and it’s not as simple as £715 being paid out willy-nilly every week.
Of course, if the DE dislike immigrants “wasting” tax-payers money, why didn’t they lambast Mo Fayed a couple of years ago for coniving to have an expensive inquiry into why some woman didn’t put her seatbelt on?
Like the vast majority of benefits, if you pay national insurance you are entiltled to benefit when you lose your job. As Nick says that’s about £60 odd a week and much less in a lot of case if contributions haven’t been paid. I have literally no idea where they get that figure from. Then again why letter facts cloud the issue??
£715 pounds a week? I’m sorry that doesn’t add up if you count all the benefits you can get? The DE need to get a calculator? But hey, they can’t say they steal jobs (because there is none) so that’s the only avenue they have!
My dad, who’s a lawyer, recently had a clinet from outside the EU who, because he claimed housing benefit, had all his benefits cut. They’re not handing out benefits left right and centre!
Nick, I’m on Job Seeker’s Allowence and I only get £47 a week. Even if you include other benifits such as council tax and child rearing benifits, it doesn’t come close. I wish I did, but I certainly don’t get £715 a day-I’d have to save up for 4 months to get that amount! The Express are ignorant nobs if they actually believe that and have some nerve for making up such a ridiculous figure.
Yeah I get £61.50 a week, but if i was under 25 I would get about £47 a week and that’s contributions from part time jobs since about the age of 16.
Judging on what I could claim it would have could to about 500 at most a month….yes thats a MONTH, suppose if they have kids they may get more but were hardly talking an average as most immigrants arrive here without families. £715 sounds like the upper limit.
However this story rebounds on anyone unlucky enough to find themselves without work and were not all thick as pigshite, bone idle, workshy, drink all day, drug taking layabouts…actually infact I would say 90% didn’t fall into that at all, and anyhow I’d read the Express if I lacked brain power and swallow this bullshite.
As for Pieterson, I’ve not read one mention that it was his team mates. Though forcing a foreigner out is surely good news in the Express’s world view.
£715 a week! do people actually beleive them when they print rubbish like this? they would have to have about 10 kids plus be working at least 16 hours a week to get anything close.
No mention of the millions of british born people claiming benfits, most of wish have properly paid less NI than the immagrants.
Come on give it a break…”most of them” that just as bad as this reporting from the Express.
Some people are out of work from no fault of there own and they spend several hours searching for jobs daily, regardless of how much I’ve paid in NI, I could probably say I work harder finding work than someone just browsing the web all day but I don’t.
I think we are all in favour of strong and fair welfare statebut i grew up on a council estate and the % of people (all white, british born) who didn’t work or want to work would shock you. if it wasn’t for these people then people like you who are geniune would get more help.
Like as if anyone on benefits actually gets handed £750 a week as disposable income.
Maybe it’s possible if they count the vast rent some (British) Rackman landlord is demanding in some place they are trapped in where housing for rent is virtually unobtainable. But even there I doubt it’s credible to arrive at this number.
(the fact they do not break it down is such an obvious clue that it’s a ‘made up in the editors room’ lie)
“the editors clearly realised they couldn’t fit ‘eastern’ in the headline, so now it looks like a strange typo”
Good point; maybe “E Europe” is simply the continent as an online entity, and with the lack of overheads that the internet provides, such as food and housing that electronic bodies don’t need, of course they would receive less living expenses.
More shite from the Express. If they want it to be E Europe at the very least they need a full stop after the E. Primary school children could put a paper together better than this. Infact maybe that should be a challenge. Get primary school pupils to write the express and see if the readers notice.
Assuming a single parent with 4 children and a serious disability, working 16 hours a week to qualify for working tax credit, about £300 of that figure would still have to consist of housing benefit and is thus going to a private landlord, not the claimant.
Daily Express amazed as it becomes clear that the cost of living in Eastern Europe, less than twenty years into captialism, is less than that of the UK, major initiator of the industrial revolution and major capitalist power for hundreds of years.
I’m going to survive the “Big Freeze” by buying a jumper with money I’d otherwise have spent on a very shit “newspaper”.
First of all, thanks Mailwatch for putting this page on like I asked!
But this is a classic front page today. The bash immigrants in their main story (as usual), yet they comiserate with Kevin Pietersen, who’s South African!
In other news, “How to survive the big freeze”-wear warm clothes and light a fire in the evening. Not exactly hard!
Sadly there is no detail of how this £715 figure is arrived at. It just seems to have been a number plucked out of thin air by the Tax Payers Alliance.
According to the Departmetn of Work and Pensions, Jobseek’s allowance is £60.50 per week. Plus something for housing benefit in there I guess.
Recently I’ve become aware of someone from Sweden who is living in the UK and is very shortly about to give birth. She lost her job a few months ago and was unable to gain more employment, because of pregnancy and instead went on to jobseeker’s allowance and council tax/ rent support. Recently she was encouraged to claim income support and upon finding out she wasn’t British, the DWP and council stopped all her benefits and now she’s got no money and a sproglet on the way.
So, Daily Express, don’t try telling me that we’re handing out benefits left, right and centre to immigrants because we’re quite clearly not.
Chuh, never happy are they. Immigrants who work here are nicking all our jobs. If they don’t work, they’re idle bum sponges.
Point of order, by the way. The £715 per week is for a family of four – not exactly rich pickings to support a family with. And given these benefits apply to everyone, it’s strange to think Express only considers immigrants unworthy of making such a claim.
So let me get this right. These immigrants have worked in this country, paid tax and NI contributions and then find they can claim benefits when they become unemployed.
…What’s the problem?
I’m sure they are subject to the same rules as everybody else in that position. i.e. They need to prove they are actively seeking alternative employment etc etc. and it’s not as simple as £715 being paid out willy-nilly every week.
What a load of old tosh!
Of course, if the DE dislike immigrants “wasting” tax-payers money, why didn’t they lambast Mo Fayed a couple of years ago for coniving to have an expensive inquiry into why some woman didn’t put her seatbelt on?
Like the vast majority of benefits, if you pay national insurance you are entiltled to benefit when you lose your job. As Nick says that’s about £60 odd a week and much less in a lot of case if contributions haven’t been paid. I have literally no idea where they get that figure from. Then again why letter facts cloud the issue??
The Mail’s at this as well! What a bunch of irresponsible twats. What exactly is this going to achieve?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1108806/Jobs-dry-Poles-stay-reap-benefits.html
£715 pounds a week? I’m sorry that doesn’t add up if you count all the benefits you can get? The DE need to get a calculator? But hey, they can’t say they steal jobs (because there is none) so that’s the only avenue they have!
My dad, who’s a lawyer, recently had a clinet from outside the EU who, because he claimed housing benefit, had all his benefits cut. They’re not handing out benefits left right and centre!
Nick, I’m on Job Seeker’s Allowence and I only get £47 a week. Even if you include other benifits such as council tax and child rearing benifits, it doesn’t come close. I wish I did, but I certainly don’t get £715 a day-I’d have to save up for 4 months to get that amount! The Express are ignorant nobs if they actually believe that and have some nerve for making up such a ridiculous figure.
Twats
Yeah I get £61.50 a week, but if i was under 25 I would get about £47 a week and that’s contributions from part time jobs since about the age of 16.
Judging on what I could claim it would have could to about 500 at most a month….yes thats a MONTH, suppose if they have kids they may get more but were hardly talking an average as most immigrants arrive here without families. £715 sounds like the upper limit.
However this story rebounds on anyone unlucky enough to find themselves without work and were not all thick as pigshite, bone idle, workshy, drink all day, drug taking layabouts…actually infact I would say 90% didn’t fall into that at all, and anyhow I’d read the Express if I lacked brain power and swallow this bullshite.
As for Pieterson, I’ve not read one mention that it was his team mates. Though forcing a foreigner out is surely good news in the Express’s world view.
How to survive the BIG freeze. Burn as many copies of the Express as you can find.
£715 a week! do people actually beleive them when they print rubbish like this? they would have to have about 10 kids plus be working at least 16 hours a week to get anything close.
No mention of the millions of british born people claiming benfits, most of wish have properly paid less NI than the immagrants.
Come on give it a break…”most of them” that just as bad as this reporting from the Express.
Some people are out of work from no fault of there own and they spend several hours searching for jobs daily, regardless of how much I’ve paid in NI, I could probably say I work harder finding work than someone just browsing the web all day but I don’t.
I think we are all in favour of strong and fair welfare statebut i grew up on a council estate and the % of people (all white, british born) who didn’t work or want to work would shock you. if it wasn’t for these people then people like you who are geniune would get more help.
£750 per week.
Yeah right.
Like as if anyone on benefits actually gets handed £750 a week as disposable income.
Maybe it’s possible if they count the vast rent some (British) Rackman landlord is demanding in some place they are trapped in where housing for rent is virtually unobtainable. But even there I doubt it’s credible to arrive at this number.
(the fact they do not break it down is such an obvious clue that it’s a ‘made up in the editors room’ lie)
But isn’t the ‘free’ market wonderful?
Sorry £715 a week.
(like it’s all suddenly so much better at the slightly lesser level)
Maybe they got the facts from the Student Loan Company, that tried to claim I should be paying some of my loan back even though I am unemployed.
They told me you can claim the money on JSA and that you can also claim clothes on it for interviews, the JC told me this was utter rubbish.
the editors clearly realised they couldn’t fit ‘eastern’ in the headline, so now it looks like a strange typo. Worlds Greatest Newspaper indeed!
Perhaps the Express think the immigrants get hand outs from the Tsar.
“the editors clearly realised they couldn’t fit ‘eastern’ in the headline, so now it looks like a strange typo”
Good point; maybe “E Europe” is simply the continent as an online entity, and with the lack of overheads that the internet provides, such as food and housing that electronic bodies don’t need, of course they would receive less living expenses.
More shite from the Express. If they want it to be E Europe at the very least they need a full stop after the E. Primary school children could put a paper together better than this. Infact maybe that should be a challenge. Get primary school pupils to write the express and see if the readers notice.
Assuming a single parent with 4 children and a serious disability, working 16 hours a week to qualify for working tax credit, about £300 of that figure would still have to consist of housing benefit and is thus going to a private landlord, not the claimant.
And in addition there are minimum residence conditions for immigrants. You can’t just turn up and claim.
People are lucky if that get a tenth of that ridiculous figure.Poisonous BS filth masquerading as ‘news’,as per usual in this putrid rag……….