Irrespective of what the government does to ease the recession, the DM will consider it wrong. I trust the government to handle the situation more than I do the opinions of the DM’s greasy hacks.
The lightbulb thing is absolutely ridiculous. I wish all I had to worry about in my life was incandescent light bulbs!!!
In response to unprecedented consumer demand, we have bought up a shit load of these things so stopping you buying them unless you buy the Mail. Yeah nice one.
Do your duty! Go buy lighbulbs in the name of the Queen!
As someone in the Guardian put it, the Mail equate the right to buy lightbulbs with the right to bear arms.
There is a lot to be said for the energy saving lightbulbs in that some peope say they’re not safe however. So, it is right to question whether those bulbs might not be the best idea.
Oh and from what i hacve read it’s not simply ‘printing money’ rather banks would aquire this ‘new money’ through the sale of coporate underwritings. So essentially this is just plain incorrect.
Lying economic sh*t and a King Canute move against energy saving light bulbs.
Jebus H.
The new year isn’t starting too good is it?
(btw, for what it’s worth, I’ve been using energy saving bulbs for well over 10yrs – from the days when they were bl**dy expensive- and still have 1 or 2 of those early ones still going. I’ve had no problems at all, just lower electricity bills)
When I went into work earlier, there was panic on the streets of London; fucking MAYHEM it was, everyone was fighting tooth and nail for a packet of lightbulbs. Riots were breaking out, Molotov cocktails were being slung through shop windows, pools of blood flooded the roads…nah, not really, I made it up. Easy though, ain’t it? Funny how I haven’t seen any mass hysteria over this apparent lightbulb shortage reported elsewhere.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, actual news is happening in the form of the Palestine/Israel war, or some shit like that. But why should anyone care? Didn’t you hear that there are no goddamned lightbulbs?!
The Mail’s piece about the government ‘printing money’ is hysterical, praising Maggie Thatcher (remember her? she left office in 1990) and implying that Brown & Co are no better than the regime that oppresses Zimbabwe. The story has garnered more than 200 comments.
Funny how they didn’t mention the following from Wikipedia:
‘Quantitative easing ['printing money'] was used notably by the Bank of Japan (BOJ) to fight domestic deflation in the early 2000s. More recently during the global financial crisis of 2008, policies announced by the US Federal Reserve under Ben Bernanke to counter the effects of the crisis have been likened to quantitative easing coupled with the issuance of new debt on the US federal balance sheet.’
Don’t know what to make of that. I’ve yet to see a Christian put a sign on a bus of that size saying “Believe in God or you’ll go to Hell” It wouldn’t be allowed.
Mail readers have short memories which probably explains the DM’s interest in making Altzheimers pills available on the NHS. I liked the one who was going on about the ‘unprecedented devaluation of the pound’, blissfully unaware that under Mrs T the £:US$ rate went all the way down to 1.09.
This light bulb bollocks is the funniest since the “Outrage As Man Exposes Self Live On BBC… er, radio” a couple of months back!
And last week there was another classic- “All Children To Get SEXUAL Health Advice At School” -which was hilariously contradicted by the first line of the actual article: “Some secondary schools and colleges are maybe considering” etc, etc…
Well done on the new site too. I especially like the disclaimer. Most of the silly old sods among your Mail / Express readership don’t know any better and we should treat them with as much sensitivity as we would all the binge drinking Islamic teenagers driven mad by video games wearing hoodies on benefits whilst pregnant.
If there’s a faint possibility of something maybe happening if conditions perhaps suit it once considered against all alternatives, and the Mail don’t like it, it will immediately be interpreted as “Brainwashing scam to be forced-fed wholesale to all hard-working taxpayers”. The right wing press live in a very binary world, where everything is wholly right or wholly wrong, and responsibility can only be apportioned to one party.
Sarah – I believe these bus adverts have been put up by the British Humanist Association in repsonse to an ad last year on the side of buses that featured a link to a website which claimed that all non-Christians would go to hell. I think the ads are great myself.
It’s just bloody typical that Christian Voice should muscle in – they’re a horrible bunch of people. I’m a Christian and they don’t speak with my voice at all, thank you very much, and the bus ads don’t offend me in the slightest.
Although Richard Dawkins does, to be honest. He’s entitled to whatever views he likes, but he’s pretty hostile towards those who disagree with him and seems to enjoy ridiculing people. If he wants to be an atheist, fine, but could he be a bit nicer about it?
I was disgusted with the story of the dalmation having given birth to two litters in two years totally 34 puppies. This dog had a caesarean and then was forced to feed some of her puppies she must have been in pain and very tired.
There are much needed homes for puppies/dogs including dalmations, this is just total greed on the owners part. The RSPCA, Vets, Dogs Trust, Blue Cross and the many more homes for dogs should push for this kind of breeding to stop.
Charlie- I do like the adverts as well. I was just wondering if there was a double standard with this advert because I don’t know if a religious group could get away with posting a big advert on a bus saying something that was insulting to people who didn’t believe in God. It seems they already have however (or provided a link to a website that did).
What I’m looking forward to out of all of this, is that apparently all advertisers have to have “substantiation and truthfulness” behind their adverts before being allowed to advertise. Stephen Green is claiming “I think the advertisers are really going to struggle to show their claim is not an exaggeration or inaccurate, as the ASA code puts it,”
Bring on the ‘prove there’s no God’ debate’! I think they should send the Bus to Israel and Gaza. It might make things easier
Christian Voice aren’t a bunch of horrible people: Christian Voice is ONE horrible person. I honestly believe Green is this “group”’s only member. Why on earth does anybody take him seriously.
I’ve seen plenty of adverts, albeit not on that kind of scale, which declared with a lot more certainty than “probably” that there WAS a God. The “probably” was inserted precisely in order to stop the ASA getting involved: now the poor sods have to rule on the exact degree of likelihood involved.
i would love it if a Judge said: “Taking on board the evidence I have seen, I have decided to rule ion favour of the defendent, because, according to all acceptable evidence, there probably is no God, and the advert is thus within the guidelines.” screwing up the advertisement of religious events in Britain for years to come.
Dawkins must feel pritty crap about the whole thing. Not only did almost all Christian groups react with delight to the news (excluding Christian Voice) but the organisers of the campaign put an hilarious “probably” into the ad. For Dawkins who has spent his whole life comparing Christians to those who believe in the toothfairy to see his £5k donation spent on saying God “probably” doesnt exist must have been a real kick in the teeth.
My comment was published in the Time Online about that story. Nice to see everyone doesnt ruthlessly surpress free speech like the Mail.
On the British Humanist Association. They seem to be something similar to Taxpayers Alliance, as they have a mere 7,000 members in the whole of the UK (some churches have more than that) yet they are frequently quoted as an authoritative voice of Athiesm in the UK. Unless you have a membership in proportion to the actual numbers in the population I dont think your views should be respected as representative for the entire population. Richard Dawkins Im sure doesnt represent most athiests, just like Mark Green doesnt represent most Christians. Ignore them!
I’d be astonished if Richard Dawkins viewed the ads with the inclusion of the adverbial qualifier as a “kick in the teeth”. As is well known, it is logically impossible to prove a negative (that there is no god), and Professor Dawkins acknowledges this himself, so the inclusion of the word probably is no more than an acknowledgement of that in line with advertising standards. It’s a little like Carlsberg ads describing it as “probably the best lager in the world”. There probably is no god – or at any rate the prospect of the existence of one is so vanishingly small as to merit no more than the briefest of acknowledgements.
I’ve been a nice (respectful to believers who can leave off killing non- believers) athiest for most of my life but have never reached Dawkins- standard enthusiasm. I read his book, but have to say Hitchens (Christpher, not Potty Pete) made the same points far more succintcly.
They don’t actually print money, they write cheques to banks in exvhange for assets. But never let the facts get in the way of scaring people.
Lol at the lightbulb giveaway.
Irrespective of what the government does to ease the recession, the DM will consider it wrong. I trust the government to handle the situation more than I do the opinions of the DM’s greasy hacks.
The lightbulb thing is absolutely ridiculous. I wish all I had to worry about in my life was incandescent light bulbs!!!
In response to unprecedented consumer demand, we have bought up a shit load of these things so stopping you buying them unless you buy the Mail. Yeah nice one.
Do your duty! Go buy lighbulbs in the name of the Queen!
As someone in the Guardian put it, the Mail equate the right to buy lightbulbs with the right to bear arms.
There is a lot to be said for the energy saving lightbulbs in that some peope say they’re not safe however. So, it is right to question whether those bulbs might not be the best idea.
Oh and from what i hacve read it’s not simply ‘printing money’ rather banks would aquire this ‘new money’ through the sale of coporate underwritings. So essentially this is just plain incorrect.
“Chancellor Alistair Darling has denied he is planning to “print money” in an effort to tackle the downturn. ”
Right…
I saw people in the shop queuing to buy this shite, average IQ 83.
That sea doesn’t look frozen to me, I can clearly see waves in it.
And as for the lightbulb giveaway, is that a joke? That has to be the most stupid free shit I’ve ever seen in this ‘paper’.
At least the free lightbulbs will be of some use, unlike the DVDs of obscure films that the bastards fling at us.
“In response to unprecedented public demand…”
What an utter load of bollocks.
This is a fantastic site! Glad to see a force of people is forming to expose the lies and corruption of the Daily Mail.
get this site mentioned on radio or TV.
Keep up the good work, and try refuting daily mail lies with concrete evidence too from websites or journals.
Lying economic sh*t and a King Canute move against energy saving light bulbs.
Jebus H.
The new year isn’t starting too good is it?
(btw, for what it’s worth, I’ve been using energy saving bulbs for well over 10yrs – from the days when they were bl**dy expensive- and still have 1 or 2 of those early ones still going. I’ve had no problems at all, just lower electricity bills)
Ah but those DVD’s you can sell them on the carboot for 50p…no joke.
When I went into work earlier, there was panic on the streets of London; fucking MAYHEM it was, everyone was fighting tooth and nail for a packet of lightbulbs. Riots were breaking out, Molotov cocktails were being slung through shop windows, pools of blood flooded the roads…nah, not really, I made it up. Easy though, ain’t it? Funny how I haven’t seen any mass hysteria over this apparent lightbulb shortage reported elsewhere.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, actual news is happening in the form of the Palestine/Israel war, or some shit like that. But why should anyone care? Didn’t you hear that there are no goddamned lightbulbs?!
The Mail’s piece about the government ‘printing money’ is hysterical, praising Maggie Thatcher (remember her? she left office in 1990) and implying that Brown & Co are no better than the regime that oppresses Zimbabwe. The story has garnered more than 200 comments.
Funny how they didn’t mention the following from Wikipedia:
‘Quantitative easing ['printing money'] was used notably by the Bank of Japan (BOJ) to fight domestic deflation in the early 2000s. More recently during the global financial crisis of 2008, policies announced by the US Federal Reserve under Ben Bernanke to counter the effects of the crisis have been likened to quantitative easing coupled with the issuance of new debt on the US federal balance sheet.’
Anyone read this yet?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1110027/Atheist-bus-adverts-claiming-Theres-probably-God-reported-watchdog.html
Don’t know what to make of that. I’ve yet to see a Christian put a sign on a bus of that size saying “Believe in God or you’ll go to Hell” It wouldn’t be allowed.
Mail readers have short memories which probably explains the DM’s interest in making Altzheimers pills available on the NHS. I liked the one who was going on about the ‘unprecedented devaluation of the pound’, blissfully unaware that under Mrs T the £:US$ rate went all the way down to 1.09.
This light bulb bollocks is the funniest since the “Outrage As Man Exposes Self Live On BBC… er, radio” a couple of months back!
And last week there was another classic- “All Children To Get SEXUAL Health Advice At School” -which was hilariously contradicted by the first line of the actual article: “Some secondary schools and colleges are maybe considering” etc, etc…
Well done on the new site too. I especially like the disclaimer. Most of the silly old sods among your Mail / Express readership don’t know any better and we should treat them with as much sensitivity as we would all the binge drinking Islamic teenagers driven mad by video games wearing hoodies on benefits whilst pregnant.
If there’s a faint possibility of something maybe happening if conditions perhaps suit it once considered against all alternatives, and the Mail don’t like it, it will immediately be interpreted as “Brainwashing scam to be forced-fed wholesale to all hard-working taxpayers”. The right wing press live in a very binary world, where everything is wholly right or wholly wrong, and responsibility can only be apportioned to one party.
Sarah – I believe these bus adverts have been put up by the British Humanist Association in repsonse to an ad last year on the side of buses that featured a link to a website which claimed that all non-Christians would go to hell. I think the ads are great myself.
It’s just bloody typical that Christian Voice should muscle in – they’re a horrible bunch of people. I’m a Christian and they don’t speak with my voice at all, thank you very much, and the bus ads don’t offend me in the slightest.
Although Richard Dawkins does, to be honest. He’s entitled to whatever views he likes, but he’s pretty hostile towards those who disagree with him and seems to enjoy ridiculing people. If he wants to be an atheist, fine, but could he be a bit nicer about it?
I was disgusted with the story of the dalmation having given birth to two litters in two years totally 34 puppies. This dog had a caesarean and then was forced to feed some of her puppies she must have been in pain and very tired.
There are much needed homes for puppies/dogs including dalmations, this is just total greed on the owners part. The RSPCA, Vets, Dogs Trust, Blue Cross and the many more homes for dogs should push for this kind of breeding to stop.
Charlie- I do like the adverts as well. I was just wondering if there was a double standard with this advert because I don’t know if a religious group could get away with posting a big advert on a bus saying something that was insulting to people who didn’t believe in God. It seems they already have however (or provided a link to a website that did).
What I’m looking forward to out of all of this, is that apparently all advertisers have to have “substantiation and truthfulness” behind their adverts before being allowed to advertise. Stephen Green is claiming “I think the advertisers are really going to struggle to show their claim is not an exaggeration or inaccurate, as the ASA code puts it,”
Bring on the ‘prove there’s no God’ debate’! I think they should send the Bus to Israel and Gaza. It might make things easier
The bus ads are hardly any less truthful than the notion that Penelope Cruz actually uses hair dye from a packet that you buy in the supermaket.
Christian Voice aren’t a bunch of horrible people: Christian Voice is ONE horrible person. I honestly believe Green is this “group”’s only member. Why on earth does anybody take him seriously.
I’ve seen plenty of adverts, albeit not on that kind of scale, which declared with a lot more certainty than “probably” that there WAS a God. The “probably” was inserted precisely in order to stop the ASA getting involved: now the poor sods have to rule on the exact degree of likelihood involved.
i would love it if a Judge said: “Taking on board the evidence I have seen, I have decided to rule ion favour of the defendent, because, according to all acceptable evidence, there probably is no God, and the advert is thus within the guidelines.” screwing up the advertisement of religious events in Britain for years to come.
Dawkins must feel pritty crap about the whole thing. Not only did almost all Christian groups react with delight to the news (excluding Christian Voice) but the organisers of the campaign put an hilarious “probably” into the ad. For Dawkins who has spent his whole life comparing Christians to those who believe in the toothfairy to see his £5k donation spent on saying God “probably” doesnt exist must have been a real kick in the teeth.
My comment was published in the Time Online about that story. Nice to see everyone doesnt ruthlessly surpress free speech like the Mail.
On the British Humanist Association. They seem to be something similar to Taxpayers Alliance, as they have a mere 7,000 members in the whole of the UK (some churches have more than that) yet they are frequently quoted as an authoritative voice of Athiesm in the UK. Unless you have a membership in proportion to the actual numbers in the population I dont think your views should be respected as representative for the entire population. Richard Dawkins Im sure doesnt represent most athiests, just like Mark Green doesnt represent most Christians. Ignore them!
Er…does anyone have a membership in proportion to the actual numbers in the population?
I’d be astonished if Richard Dawkins viewed the ads with the inclusion of the adverbial qualifier as a “kick in the teeth”. As is well known, it is logically impossible to prove a negative (that there is no god), and Professor Dawkins acknowledges this himself, so the inclusion of the word probably is no more than an acknowledgement of that in line with advertising standards. It’s a little like Carlsberg ads describing it as “probably the best lager in the world”. There probably is no god – or at any rate the prospect of the existence of one is so vanishingly small as to merit no more than the briefest of acknowledgements.
Bet they’re blaming Brown for the sea freezing over.
I’ve been a nice (respectful to believers who can leave off killing non- believers) athiest for most of my life but have never reached Dawkins- standard enthusiasm. I read his book, but have to say Hitchens (Christpher, not Potty Pete) made the same points far more succintcly.