When I was nine or ten I arrived at school in winter to gleefully find that it had been closed for the day due to a problem with the heating that could have left us all shivering. That was over 17 years ago. Did ‘Elf and Safety’ have a time-machine?
Perhaps the reason the schools considered that the weather would be bad all week, was because of tabloid rags having front pages that state along the lines of “It’s here all week.”
So, instead of blaming ‘elf and safety, perhaps lay the blame at the “day-lee-may-al” (phonetic spelling seems to be in vogue these days!)
It’s unbelievable that they expect to be taken seriously as a ‘newspaper’, but still go all Littlecock and use that pathetic, childish term on their front page. Anyway, it’s not health and safety (To use the proper, grown-up term) that has frozen them out, it’s the fucking weather in case they havn’t noticed. You know, like ice, snow, freezing tempratures and blinding winds? Today, the DM’s proved just how uninteligent and childish they actually are.
Oooo Has depression now become acceptable or like many Mail readers like to tell us, they should just get a GRIP.
As for the headline at our Students Union we did a “elf and safety campaign” highlighting the dangers of drinking too much.
Is it something to do with that?
I remember it snowing when I was at primary school must of been around 1990, and our school was closed for 2 days because of the snow. Numerous reasons such as the school temp, teachers and pupils struggling to get in and so on.
Health and Safety laws didn’t exist back then so it must have been something else.
“And if children got stranded in a school overnight because they were snowed in ? Then Mail outrage would ensure.”
If they were sent to school and freezing in the classrooms the Mail would run a picture of a frowning “tot” with “Now Labour Marches Kids To School To Freeze”. It’s the way these two-faced, irresponsible hacks treat everything. If you’re going to whine about “‘elf and safety” then lay-out the reasons for doing away with it – and accept the responsibility if someone gets hurt.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Situations like this are a win-win situation for the Mail and are eagerly awaited by them, because whatever Labour do, they can attack them for it. That’s what makes them so hypocritical and two-faced.
The Mail and the like are trying to turn ‘Health and Safety’ into a smear like they did with ‘Political Correctness’. I don’t think the Mail would be happy until all our kids were walking to school on a tightrope suspended over a giant volcano. That’ll show that “‘elf and safety” lot eh?
Why is middle age depression on the rise? The Daily Mail is asking this question? Cancer foods lurking in your fridge, bins not being empied for half a second, hoardes of one-legged asylum Eritrean hoodie bandits waiting to attack you, the PC brigade lurking everywhere, Scrooge McBean Chavez, Polpot McBroon’s policies, this once great country the is a laughing stock, yoghurt and sandals brigade, elfnsafety going mad, Harriet Harperson….. the list goes on. And the Mail STILL (bold, red, underlined) asks this question. More batteries for the irony meter and quick!!
For goodness’ sake, with all the more important things in the world, why should this crass and ridiculous headline be allowed to be published? And they all talk about “The freedom of the press”! Utter c*cks!
ExPC – They actually ran a story about how not even the Luftwaffe stopped London buses, but the snow and Labour’s health and safety did! It’s amazing how EVERYTHING in the Mail goes back to the War, yet they forget to mention they originally championed Hitler for years (’Hurrah of the Blackshirts!’) yet claim moral ownership of the outcome.
Steven – One of my uncles ended up in Hackney Hospital during the 30s with four stab wounds in his back after a ‘visit’ to a Mosley rally one Saturday afternoon in Dalston. Fighting the Blackshirts was a tradition in our family and one of the main reasons I detest the Mail.
To be fair, the Daily Telegraph also ran with the story that schools were being wimpy and closing schools unnecessarily “Teachers need to get a grip”, but they did manage to remain within the normal bounds of the English language- “elf and safety” indeed
Our school was open as ever yesterday, but a school bus skidded on the way in and crashed into a gate post- a window on the bus was broken but luckily no one was hurt. A day’s education in half-filled classes (because many people couldn’t get to school) is not worth risking your life to get to!
Would they prefer to spend large amounts of tax money on making Britain fully operational on the one or two days a year when we have snow. Because I don’t. If one or two days a year, we can’t go to school or work because of snow, so be it. The Mail would be the first to complain if we were to spend millions of pounds of council tax on road gritters, snow ploughs and other countermeasures.
If the snow goes on a few more days, any chance we’ll get a “snow causes cancer” headline?
Also, I heard that on the radio this morning, a spokesman from Kent Police said they have had nine times as many road traffic accidents than normal per day across the county during snowy days. But, of course, Kent Police are just a bunch of politically correct, “elf and safety” socialist freedom-haters.
elf and safety
Our department is working on the proposed regulations that are scheduled for 2012
The new regulations will require that any criminal going about his normal business will be required to take with him 2 armed policemen.This should help to protect their “uman ” rights from any member of the public who may try to protect themselves from being mugged or fighting back when they come face to face with these criminals when they are being robbed in their own homes.
We have been carrying out trials and a recent case we secretly filmed a 28 year old thug attacking an old age pensioner who trying to defend himself and accidently struck the thug in the arm.The 2 policemen got the pensioner in a armlock and threw him to the ground so they could handcuff him and drag him into a waiting police car.
THESE TRIALS SHOULD ENSURE THAT BY 2012 CRIME FIGURES SHOULD BE ViRTUALLY WIPED OUT AND THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL NOT CITE IN DEFENCE:
A MANS HOME IS HIS CASTLE
SELF DEFENCE
PUBLIC SPIRITEDNESS
AND MANY MORE
Ministry of Id/io/acy
Oh for heaven’s sake, it’s ONE extra day off school. In a couple of months there will be the inevitable ‘kids are under too much pressure and stress at school’ report.
The schools are/were closed because a) not enough teachers could get in, and there are rules regarding how many teachers are required to supervise a given number of children, b) not enough kids could get in, c) if the heating broke, everyone would freeze. My school was frequently closed during the winter because of its ancient heating system.
Jeez, give everyone a break and lighten up. Some people actually enjoyed the day(s) off and had FUN in the snow.
And I bet its FOREIGN snow (even if it is white). Coming over here covering our hardworking families, making them having to buy deicer and making them skid their 4×4s. Bet Broon is behind it all…
My college iced over. I actually don’t mind it being shut for an extra day, seeing as there would have probably been the same level of outrage if there had been injury to kids.
Would they rather have Labour waste a load of money for one or two days of snow?
“Middle-age depression – why is it on the rise? [quite a mystery that] Tomorrow: immigrants paid benefits to murder you, and your sofa will give you cancer.”
i actualy wouldnt be surprised if the article about middle aged depression mentioned all the things we’ve mentioned as reasons why ppl get depressed, and so the vicious circle of Headlines causing News causing Headlines keeps being rekindled.
In 1987 my school was closed for nearly two weeks during a long-lasting snowy period. It had oil-powered heating, and the oil was delivered by road. Because of the poor conditions, oil deliveries were only made to essential locations, like hospitals, and therefore the school had to close. This was over 20 years ago, and people just accepted that there wasn’t much that could be done. It’s long been enshrined in law that workplaces (and that will include schools) have to be heated to at least 16C, and that no-one can be forced to work if it is colder. That dates back, as far as I am aware, to at least the 1960s.
My children’s school was closed on Monday and Tuesday, and I fully support the school’s decision. Tuesday wasn’t so bad, but on Monday the roads in my area were lethal and people were still being dumb enough to try driving on them. It was a day to be indoors, completely.
My best ever birthday was Jan 8, 1982. We got sent home from school because the boiler packed up. Unfortunately I was due a birthday tea party at the weekend but the snow got heavier and no one could make it. It scarred me for life and I swore ever since then never to presume that anyone would come to any social event held in my honour. I blame the Daily Mail.
“What has this got to do with an elf? It’s not even a pun, because it’s not a double meaning. It’s just baby talk.”
I think the purpose is to “impersonate” the speech patterns of a surly health and safety jobsworth “‘elf and safety, mate”.
I agree it looks childish. The Mail, despite its rather shrill and immature editorial line, tends to be very formal in the way it words headline and so this one just looks… odd. It’s more like the sort of thing you’d expect to see in the red-tops which the Mail, as a middle-class paper, seems to think itself a cut above.
“It’s long been enshrined in law that workplaces (and that will include schools) have to be heated to at least 16C, and that no-one can be forced to work if it is colder. That dates back, as far as I am aware, to at least the 1960s.”
I think this is correct. I remember from my own childhood (1980s) that schools had to close if the temperature was below a certain level; this is clearly a long-enshrined rule and a good one. Tabloid hacks are pretty good at winding everything into a narrative, though, so longstanding laws suddenly become associated with more recent concerns about health and safety “jobsworths” as if they had appeared yesterday. Unfortunately, when you play to people’s prejudices their critical faculties go out the window. An example is the popular idea (well, popular on Mail message boards) that youth crime is something “Blair” and “Labour” have unleashed on the country. Has everyone forgotten the 1990s or something?
I am particularly amused (but I do have a nasty sense of humour) by the girls in Rotherham who’se school was closed and built an impromptu sledge and smacked straight into a barbed wire fence killing one and critically injuring another. Someone surely missed the point there.
Kids these days! Honestly! I don’t know. In my day we went to school when it was -90 degrees and people dropped dead and got hypothermia but it was character building and I’m grateful for it. Health and safety gone mad! You couldn’t make it up.
Seriously, I think the schools have been a bit quick to close, and I find it pathetic that some snowfalls can generate so many column inches (sorry centimetres), but Steph is right, if children had been stuck in schools there would be self-rightous splutterings of outrage from the Mail.
Typical new labour, back in my day we drove on frosted roads and walked in blizzards and the homeless got frostbite in winter, but it never did anyone any harm eh?
I dont understand is “elf and safety” supposed to be a joke? Is there like some cultural reference that Im not getting? Or do DM headline writters wet their pants at every pathetic slang littlejohn comes up with?
If any troll ever comes on here again and says “the guardian is worse” I will show them this headline and ask them to show me one time where the guardian has ever used pathetic in jokes in their headlines. Is it a fucking comic or a serious newspaper?
This is the headline ? This ? For fucks sake ?
And if children got stranded in a school overnight because they were snowed in ? Then Mail outrage would ensure.
I couldn’t believe it when i saw it in W/H Smith today – actually using that stupid childish term on the front page? Its fucking pathetic!
Oh and why is middle age depression on the rise? This paper no doubt.
When I was nine or ten I arrived at school in winter to gleefully find that it had been closed for the day due to a problem with the heating that could have left us all shivering. That was over 17 years ago. Did ‘Elf and Safety’ have a time-machine?
Hang on a cotton picking minute!
Perhaps the reason the schools considered that the weather would be bad all week, was because of tabloid rags having front pages that state along the lines of “It’s here all week.”
So, instead of blaming ‘elf and safety, perhaps lay the blame at the “day-lee-may-al” (phonetic spelling seems to be in vogue these days!)
Every kid in the country rejoices that they got off school for the day, the Mail complains about it.
Borebags.
Middle age depression? – Why that’ll be because of the seamless, meaningless, endless tripe that this newpaper produces every day.
It’s unbelievable that they expect to be taken seriously as a ‘newspaper’, but still go all Littlecock and use that pathetic, childish term on their front page. Anyway, it’s not health and safety (To use the proper, grown-up term) that has frozen them out, it’s the fucking weather in case they havn’t noticed. You know, like ice, snow, freezing tempratures and blinding winds? Today, the DM’s proved just how uninteligent and childish they actually are.
And as some people have already pointed out on here, I think we all know why depression is rising in middle-aged people!
Oooo Has depression now become acceptable or like many Mail readers like to tell us, they should just get a GRIP.
As for the headline at our Students Union we did a “elf and safety campaign” highlighting the dangers of drinking too much.
Is it something to do with that?
I remember it snowing when I was at primary school must of been around 1990, and our school was closed for 2 days because of the snow. Numerous reasons such as the school temp, teachers and pupils struggling to get in and so on.
Health and Safety laws didn’t exist back then so it must have been something else.
Parodists have seized-control of the Mail’s headline-writing department again, I see.
As for that top-banner, does anyone reading this negativist rag really need an answer to that question?
“And if children got stranded in a school overnight because they were snowed in ? Then Mail outrage would ensure.”
If they were sent to school and freezing in the classrooms the Mail would run a picture of a frowning “tot” with “Now Labour Marches Kids To School To Freeze”. It’s the way these two-faced, irresponsible hacks treat everything. If you’re going to whine about “‘elf and safety” then lay-out the reasons for doing away with it – and accept the responsibility if someone gets hurt.
Zagrebo
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Situations like this are a win-win situation for the Mail and are eagerly awaited by them, because whatever Labour do, they can attack them for it. That’s what makes them so hypocritical and two-faced.
The Mail and the like are trying to turn ‘Health and Safety’ into a smear like they did with ‘Political Correctness’. I don’t think the Mail would be happy until all our kids were walking to school on a tightrope suspended over a giant volcano. That’ll show that “‘elf and safety” lot eh?
Dacre must be on holiday again for a headline like that to slip through.
During the war I went to school with a gas mask. This had been issued by the Ministry of War for health and safety reasons
Why is middle age depression on the rise? The Daily Mail is asking this question? Cancer foods lurking in your fridge, bins not being empied for half a second, hoardes of one-legged asylum Eritrean hoodie bandits waiting to attack you, the PC brigade lurking everywhere, Scrooge McBean Chavez, Polpot McBroon’s policies, this once great country the is a laughing stock, yoghurt and sandals brigade, elfnsafety going mad, Harriet Harperson….. the list goes on. And the Mail STILL (bold, red, underlined) asks this question. More batteries for the irony meter and quick!!
not on the front page but i was reading the site and came across an article about mi5 being involved in the torture of guantanamo prisoners
and some of the comments actually made me feel sick
i am a 16 year old girl and can understand how wrong and disgusting torture is. obviously the average DM reader can’t
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1135491/U-S-accused-suppressing-evidence-torture-Briton-held-Guantanamo-amid-claims-MI5-involved.html#comments
I thought people with depression just needed a kick up the arse??? After all it is not an illness but a personality flaw. Oh wait…..
For goodness’ sake, with all the more important things in the world, why should this crass and ridiculous headline be allowed to be published? And they all talk about “The freedom of the press”! Utter c*cks!
ExPC – They actually ran a story about how not even the Luftwaffe stopped London buses, but the snow and Labour’s health and safety did! It’s amazing how EVERYTHING in the Mail goes back to the War, yet they forget to mention they originally championed Hitler for years (’Hurrah of the Blackshirts!’) yet claim moral ownership of the outcome.
Steven – One of my uncles ended up in Hackney Hospital during the 30s with four stab wounds in his back after a ‘visit’ to a Mosley rally one Saturday afternoon in Dalston. Fighting the Blackshirts was a tradition in our family and one of the main reasons I detest the Mail.
Another front page more than able to depress any reasonably sane person unfortunate enough to spot it.
Another great day’s work DM!
To be fair, the Daily Telegraph also ran with the story that schools were being wimpy and closing schools unnecessarily “Teachers need to get a grip”, but they did manage to remain within the normal bounds of the English language- “elf and safety” indeed
Our school was open as ever yesterday, but a school bus skidded on the way in and crashed into a gate post- a window on the bus was broken but luckily no one was hurt. A day’s education in half-filled classes (because many people couldn’t get to school) is not worth risking your life to get to!
Headline – The Apocalypse is Coming. Run to the Bunkers!!
Banner – Exposed: Speculators who drive down the value of your house
i could go on…
Would they prefer to spend large amounts of tax money on making Britain fully operational on the one or two days a year when we have snow. Because I don’t. If one or two days a year, we can’t go to school or work because of snow, so be it. The Mail would be the first to complain if we were to spend millions of pounds of council tax on road gritters, snow ploughs and other countermeasures.
If the snow goes on a few more days, any chance we’ll get a “snow causes cancer” headline?
Also, I heard that on the radio this morning, a spokesman from Kent Police said they have had nine times as many road traffic accidents than normal per day across the county during snowy days. But, of course, Kent Police are just a bunch of politically correct, “elf and safety” socialist freedom-haters.
Tom-LMAO!
that main headline could have come straight from “the sun.”
elf and safety
Our department is working on the proposed regulations that are scheduled for 2012
The new regulations will require that any criminal going about his normal business will be required to take with him 2 armed policemen.This should help to protect their “uman ” rights from any member of the public who may try to protect themselves from being mugged or fighting back when they come face to face with these criminals when they are being robbed in their own homes.
We have been carrying out trials and a recent case we secretly filmed a 28 year old thug attacking an old age pensioner who trying to defend himself and accidently struck the thug in the arm.The 2 policemen got the pensioner in a armlock and threw him to the ground so they could handcuff him and drag him into a waiting police car.
THESE TRIALS SHOULD ENSURE THAT BY 2012 CRIME FIGURES SHOULD BE ViRTUALLY WIPED OUT AND THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL NOT CITE IN DEFENCE:
A MANS HOME IS HIS CASTLE
SELF DEFENCE
PUBLIC SPIRITEDNESS
AND MANY MORE
Ministry of Id/io/acy
Oh for heaven’s sake, it’s ONE extra day off school. In a couple of months there will be the inevitable ‘kids are under too much pressure and stress at school’ report.
The schools are/were closed because a) not enough teachers could get in, and there are rules regarding how many teachers are required to supervise a given number of children, b) not enough kids could get in, c) if the heating broke, everyone would freeze. My school was frequently closed during the winter because of its ancient heating system.
Jeez, give everyone a break and lighten up. Some people actually enjoyed the day(s) off and had FUN in the snow.
And I bet its FOREIGN snow (even if it is white). Coming over here covering our hardworking families, making them having to buy deicer and making them skid their 4×4s. Bet Broon is behind it all…
My college iced over. I actually don’t mind it being shut for an extra day, seeing as there would have probably been the same level of outrage if there had been injury to kids.
Would they rather have Labour waste a load of money for one or two days of snow?
At least when Dudley Moore did it in Santa Claus the Movie, there was a point because he was playing an elf, and it still wasn’t that funny.
What has this got to do with an elf? It’s not even a pun, because it’s not a double meaning. It’s just baby talk.
“Middle-age depression – why is it on the rise? [quite a mystery that] Tomorrow: immigrants paid benefits to murder you, and your sofa will give you cancer.”
i actualy wouldnt be surprised if the article about middle aged depression mentioned all the things we’ve mentioned as reasons why ppl get depressed, and so the vicious circle of Headlines causing News causing Headlines keeps being rekindled.
In 1987 my school was closed for nearly two weeks during a long-lasting snowy period. It had oil-powered heating, and the oil was delivered by road. Because of the poor conditions, oil deliveries were only made to essential locations, like hospitals, and therefore the school had to close. This was over 20 years ago, and people just accepted that there wasn’t much that could be done. It’s long been enshrined in law that workplaces (and that will include schools) have to be heated to at least 16C, and that no-one can be forced to work if it is colder. That dates back, as far as I am aware, to at least the 1960s.
My children’s school was closed on Monday and Tuesday, and I fully support the school’s decision. Tuesday wasn’t so bad, but on Monday the roads in my area were lethal and people were still being dumb enough to try driving on them. It was a day to be indoors, completely.
My best ever birthday was Jan 8, 1982. We got sent home from school because the boiler packed up. Unfortunately I was due a birthday tea party at the weekend but the snow got heavier and no one could make it. It scarred me for life and I swore ever since then never to presume that anyone would come to any social event held in my honour. I blame the Daily Mail.
@Tom
“What has this got to do with an elf? It’s not even a pun, because it’s not a double meaning. It’s just baby talk.”
I think the purpose is to “impersonate” the speech patterns of a surly health and safety jobsworth “‘elf and safety, mate”.
I agree it looks childish. The Mail, despite its rather shrill and immature editorial line, tends to be very formal in the way it words headline and so this one just looks… odd. It’s more like the sort of thing you’d expect to see in the red-tops which the Mail, as a middle-class paper, seems to think itself a cut above.
@Railroad Man
“It’s long been enshrined in law that workplaces (and that will include schools) have to be heated to at least 16C, and that no-one can be forced to work if it is colder. That dates back, as far as I am aware, to at least the 1960s.”
I think this is correct. I remember from my own childhood (1980s) that schools had to close if the temperature was below a certain level; this is clearly a long-enshrined rule and a good one. Tabloid hacks are pretty good at winding everything into a narrative, though, so longstanding laws suddenly become associated with more recent concerns about health and safety “jobsworths” as if they had appeared yesterday. Unfortunately, when you play to people’s prejudices their critical faculties go out the window. An example is the popular idea (well, popular on Mail message boards) that youth crime is something “Blair” and “Labour” have unleashed on the country. Has everyone forgotten the 1990s or something?
I am particularly amused (but I do have a nasty sense of humour) by the girls in Rotherham who’se school was closed and built an impromptu sledge and smacked straight into a barbed wire fence killing one and critically injuring another. Someone surely missed the point there.
Kids these days! Honestly! I don’t know. In my day we went to school when it was -90 degrees and people dropped dead and got hypothermia but it was character building and I’m grateful for it. Health and safety gone mad! You couldn’t make it up.
Seriously, I think the schools have been a bit quick to close, and I find it pathetic that some snowfalls can generate so many column inches (sorry centimetres), but Steph is right, if children had been stuck in schools there would be self-rightous splutterings of outrage from the Mail.
Typical new labour, back in my day we drove on frosted roads and walked in blizzards and the homeless got frostbite in winter, but it never did anyone any harm eh?
I dont understand is “elf and safety” supposed to be a joke? Is there like some cultural reference that Im not getting? Or do DM headline writters wet their pants at every pathetic slang littlejohn comes up with?
If any troll ever comes on here again and says “the guardian is worse” I will show them this headline and ask them to show me one time where the guardian has ever used pathetic in jokes in their headlines. Is it a fucking comic or a serious newspaper?
The point of writing it “‘elf ‘n” is because of snobbishness. See also: “compansayshun”.
Then they get up in arms on behalf of the working class. Sorry, wait, the white working class. Important distinction.