I have had the misfortune to share a house on two previous occasions with drug users, who made life intolerable for their fellow tenants. All heroin users, and crack addicts too, should be marched off to prison camps in the countryside and kept there until they take a more positive attitude to life. This would drastically reduce crime rates for the rest of the community. A hard line approach to hard drugs is essential to maintain a civilised society AND it can work. Look at China where thousands of drug dealers were taken to football stadiums and despatched with a shot to the head. Apparently it was a very effective policy in discouraging others. Being anti-drug is not a ‘right-wing’ Daily Mailish monopoly. Sweden is a left-wing democracy which has a zero tolerance approach to drugs. And as for Cuba…well, just try setting up as a dealer in Havana and see what happens to you!
Absolutely, Stevie. This is precisely why most DE readers think that all immigrants are living in the lap of luxury at taxpayer’s expense, when a lot of them live a dangerous and miserable hand-to-mouth existence with no handouts from the state at all.
Hang on…are the burglars or judges the ones on drugs here?
And yes daveyp we should be more like China, that land where they execute a couple of thousand people every year (clearly their punishments aren’t deterring enough people).
@ DaveyP
You think the Express wouldn’t immediately start clamouring for the rights of the Middle England people who’ve just had one of your internment camps errected at th end of the garden? Just think what it would do to property prices?
“Mrs Hambleton-Smythe added, ‘my husband worked hard bringing the banking system to it’s knees so that we could afford to move here, where there were no poor people or coloureds, except as servants, but now this evil ZaNuLeibour government has put a whole camp of them spoiling the view. What’s worse, specs of ash from the ovens keep landing on my washing.’”
What’s more important: MPs expenses or some grossly exaggerated headline about burglars being on drugs?
The headline people need to get their priorities right.
The poor Express Journo who had to write that MPs expenses story must have been very angry that a story that would normally be pg4 in the Express got the front page slot. How the hell is the paper making revenue?
It is obvious from reading previous editions of the Express that life is much cushier in the prisons anyway, so I am glad to see that these people are being punished by not being sent there.
Who would you rather spend the afternoon in the company of? A bunch of junkies giggling and falling over or a bunch of Express readers foaming at the mouth and whining about house prices? No contest.
If the story was flipped, the headline would be “Burglars on drugs are sent to prison, and guess who’s paying”. They’re never happy unless they’re moaning about something.
The problem with ancedote evidence is that I spent a couple of years with people who smoked cannabis and nothing much happened.
Different drugs call for totally different measures, booze is a drug that causes acts of disgusting behaviour, should we go around shooting everyone who gets pissed.
The world isn’t black and white, so lets stop painting it as such.
Should all people who take drugs in the privacy of their own homes, and lead productive and otherwise lawful lives, be marched off to prison camps? Or only the ones who annoy you?
Perhaps you should get a more positive attitude to life.
I bet you’re happy to get drunk. The people who get drunk in the pub next door to me sometimes annoy me, not to mention all the drunken violence that’s caused. But that doesn’t mean we need to march them all off to prison camps.
I don’t like burglars full stop – whether they take drugs or not (including alcohol and cigarettes) should be beside the point.
@NickPheas…Your comment was amusing BUT I’m not calling for the druggies to be gassed, just kept out of the way until they get their act together.
@Matt Hurst…is it just anecdotal evidence that heroin fucks up an awful lot of people? As for cannabis, I concede that a more judicious approach is required. But I have yet to meet a regular cannabis user who hasn’t shown the (negative) effects of it. Like the highly intelligent former engineer I know who has been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic yet refuses to accept that it might be due to the industrial quantities of dope that he’s smoked. He thinks that it’s all a plot by right-wing psychiatrists to punish him for his socialist views.
@Mark…I do take a positive attitude to life, that’s why I don’t take drugs. And yes, I do get drunk sometimes but please don’t tell me that beer, cider or wine are worse for society than heroin or crack cocaine. And it is a simple fact that heroin users account for an amount of crime vastly disproportionate to their numbers, I don’t see why the rest of society should have to put up with their criminality.
Whilst heroin users might account for alot of crime, is putting them in a concentration camp really the best way to deal with them? I agree that harder drugs do ruin lives and do cause crime, but every drug is different.
I know people who use cannabis, cocaine, MDMA and ketamine on a semi-regular basis and lead successful, productive lives. Infact go to any UK university and it won’t take you too long to find someone taking drugs on a night out. The point is “All drugs are bad” is too much of a black and white answer to something that is very, very complex.
IMHO cannabis could be legalised tommorrow and nothing would change, and if MDMA was legal from licensed outlets only (nightclubs where people are on it anyway) tax revenue would soar and deaths would plummet.
“I have had the misfortune to share a house on two previous occasions with drug users, who made life intolerable for their fellow tenants.”
That’s a shame. Ever ask them why they turned to drugs in the first place? Some people, I agree, are just idiots, but that isn’t always the case.
“All heroin users, and crack addicts too, should be marched off to prison camps in the countryside and kept there until they take a more positive attitude to life.”
Damn right! Along with them, we’ll bring bipolar disorder sufferers, people with depression or schizophrenia and stressed office workers who have never touched drugs in their life, because their outlook on life is depressing and therefore taking them away/ostracising them until they straighten up is the solution.
“A hard line approach to hard drugs is essential to maintain a civilised society AND it can work. Look at China where thousands of drug dealers were taken to football stadiums and despatched with a shot to the head.”
Yes, dealers, not addicts. Carting addicts away isn’t going to help much. Proper treatment might.
“Apparently it was a very effective policy in discouraging others. Being anti-drug is not a ‘right-wing’ Daily Mailish monopoly.”
No, but the real problem here is that the headlines of the Daily Mail are always way over-the-top and usually make the problem appear worse than it actually is.
Execute them instead says the Express.
I have had the misfortune to share a house on two previous occasions with drug users, who made life intolerable for their fellow tenants. All heroin users, and crack addicts too, should be marched off to prison camps in the countryside and kept there until they take a more positive attitude to life. This would drastically reduce crime rates for the rest of the community. A hard line approach to hard drugs is essential to maintain a civilised society AND it can work. Look at China where thousands of drug dealers were taken to football stadiums and despatched with a shot to the head. Apparently it was a very effective policy in discouraging others. Being anti-drug is not a ‘right-wing’ Daily Mailish monopoly. Sweden is a left-wing democracy which has a zero tolerance approach to drugs. And as for Cuba…well, just try setting up as a dealer in Havana and see what happens to you!
@ DaveyP:
Whatever one’s views on the subject, the DE headline is – as usual – deliberately exagerated and misleading.
Absolutely, Stevie. This is precisely why most DE readers think that all immigrants are living in the lap of luxury at taxpayer’s expense, when a lot of them live a dangerous and miserable hand-to-mouth existence with no handouts from the state at all.
Hang on…are the burglars or judges the ones on drugs here?
And yes daveyp we should be more like China, that land where they execute a couple of thousand people every year (clearly their punishments aren’t deterring enough people).
@ DaveyP
You think the Express wouldn’t immediately start clamouring for the rights of the Middle England people who’ve just had one of your internment camps errected at th end of the garden? Just think what it would do to property prices?
“Mrs Hambleton-Smythe added, ‘my husband worked hard bringing the banking system to it’s knees so that we could afford to move here, where there were no poor people or coloureds, except as servants, but now this evil ZaNuLeibour government has put a whole camp of them spoiling the view. What’s worse, specs of ash from the ovens keep landing on my washing.’”
What’s more important: MPs expenses or some grossly exaggerated headline about burglars being on drugs?
The headline people need to get their priorities right.
The poor Express Journo who had to write that MPs expenses story must have been very angry that a story that would normally be pg4 in the Express got the front page slot. How the hell is the paper making revenue?
It is obvious from reading previous editions of the Express that life is much cushier in the prisons anyway, so I am glad to see that these people are being punished by not being sent there.
Who would you rather spend the afternoon in the company of? A bunch of junkies giggling and falling over or a bunch of Express readers foaming at the mouth and whining about house prices? No contest.
If the story was flipped, the headline would be “Burglars on drugs are sent to prison, and guess who’s paying”. They’re never happy unless they’re moaning about something.
The problem with ancedote evidence is that I spent a couple of years with people who smoked cannabis and nothing much happened.
Different drugs call for totally different measures, booze is a drug that causes acts of disgusting behaviour, should we go around shooting everyone who gets pissed.
The world isn’t black and white, so lets stop painting it as such.
@daveyp
Should all people who take drugs in the privacy of their own homes, and lead productive and otherwise lawful lives, be marched off to prison camps? Or only the ones who annoy you?
Perhaps you should get a more positive attitude to life.
I bet you’re happy to get drunk. The people who get drunk in the pub next door to me sometimes annoy me, not to mention all the drunken violence that’s caused. But that doesn’t mean we need to march them all off to prison camps.
I don’t like burglars full stop – whether they take drugs or not (including alcohol and cigarettes) should be beside the point.
That bird on in the corner does not look as though she often wears such suits.
@NickPheas…Your comment was amusing BUT I’m not calling for the druggies to be gassed, just kept out of the way until they get their act together.
@Matt Hurst…is it just anecdotal evidence that heroin fucks up an awful lot of people? As for cannabis, I concede that a more judicious approach is required. But I have yet to meet a regular cannabis user who hasn’t shown the (negative) effects of it. Like the highly intelligent former engineer I know who has been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic yet refuses to accept that it might be due to the industrial quantities of dope that he’s smoked. He thinks that it’s all a plot by right-wing psychiatrists to punish him for his socialist views.
@Mark…I do take a positive attitude to life, that’s why I don’t take drugs. And yes, I do get drunk sometimes but please don’t tell me that beer, cider or wine are worse for society than heroin or crack cocaine. And it is a simple fact that heroin users account for an amount of crime vastly disproportionate to their numbers, I don’t see why the rest of society should have to put up with their criminality.
daveyP
Whilst heroin users might account for alot of crime, is putting them in a concentration camp really the best way to deal with them? I agree that harder drugs do ruin lives and do cause crime, but every drug is different.
I know people who use cannabis, cocaine, MDMA and ketamine on a semi-regular basis and lead successful, productive lives. Infact go to any UK university and it won’t take you too long to find someone taking drugs on a night out. The point is “All drugs are bad” is too much of a black and white answer to something that is very, very complex.
IMHO cannabis could be legalised tommorrow and nothing would change, and if MDMA was legal from licensed outlets only (nightclubs where people are on it anyway) tax revenue would soar and deaths would plummet.
Random thought – whenever people write IMHO it always makes me think of a Thai prostitute.
XD Lolwut?
@daveyp
“I have had the misfortune to share a house on two previous occasions with drug users, who made life intolerable for their fellow tenants.”
That’s a shame. Ever ask them why they turned to drugs in the first place? Some people, I agree, are just idiots, but that isn’t always the case.
“All heroin users, and crack addicts too, should be marched off to prison camps in the countryside and kept there until they take a more positive attitude to life.”
Damn right! Along with them, we’ll bring bipolar disorder sufferers, people with depression or schizophrenia and stressed office workers who have never touched drugs in their life, because their outlook on life is depressing and therefore taking them away/ostracising them until they straighten up is the solution.
“A hard line approach to hard drugs is essential to maintain a civilised society AND it can work. Look at China where thousands of drug dealers were taken to football stadiums and despatched with a shot to the head.”
Yes, dealers, not addicts. Carting addicts away isn’t going to help much. Proper treatment might.
“Apparently it was a very effective policy in discouraging others. Being anti-drug is not a ‘right-wing’ Daily Mailish monopoly.”
No, but the real problem here is that the headlines of the Daily Mail are always way over-the-top and usually make the problem appear worse than it actually is.