Weather forecasts are just that – forecasts. It’s impossible to predict the weather with any degree of certainty. You can say that the forthcoming summer would be a scorcher but there’s always going to be a chance that it won’t be. There’s still almost two more months of summer left anyway.
“What does this woman’s suicide tell us about Britain today?”. Nothing. It’s no doubt a very sad case for the family, but suicides in the UK have fallen since 1991 and are now significantly less than when the Conservatives were in power: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1092 . I wonder if research would show that Mail readers, exposed to a daily dose of negativity, have a higher suicide rate than the populace as a whole.
The forecast was just a 65% chance of a sunny summer; so that is a 1 in 3 chance of it not being sunny. The problem seems to be the met office press office putting out headlines for journalists to run with that were misleading.
Yes, the comments on the weather article are the usual idiotic “If its raining it can’t be global warming” rants. Because as we all know hot countries like Brazil, New Zealand, Bangladesh & Thailand never get heavy rains in the summer…
“The coroner’s report, made public on Tuesday, states that post-natal depression played a big part in her final, ghastly decision.”
But then Rosie Boycott starts making up the usual family vs work story:
“But I suspect many other factors contributed to her awful and untimely death”
“I have no doubt”
“it must have been”
“I suspect that…”
“I am speculating here…”
“I’m not sure whether it is ever possible to hold down a job like Catherine’s and be the mother of three youngsters”
“Catherine, I suspect, lived her life on a treadmill like this”
Strangely, many of the comments pick her up on the quality of the journalism, there’s only one mad old fool:
“No doubt that this is a tragedy, but I lay most of the blame with the “feminists”, the Harmans of this world who wanted it all and are now suffering the SAME stress as men have done for decades. Welcome to the real world. Welcome to EQUALITY, all of it, warts and all.
- Cllr Jeremy Zeid (Con), Harrow, HMP-ENGLAND”
Blo*dy hell, the weather forecast wasn’t quite as predicted (but average temps are exactly where the forecast said they would be) and a well off profession’s suicide.
Yeah, that’s the DM priorities for what happened in the world yesterday!
We’ve had some exceedingly nice days this summer.. and there are more to come. It’s not like it’s been raining every day, but the fail would have to point out the worst day and apply it to the whole of summer.
Eh, I wonder if that woman’s family are happy with her death being used as ANOTHER excuse to moan about almost everything the Mail hates in one go: the government, the ’state of our once great country’, female equality/women who want to have kids AND work, etc etc. They don’t actually know why she killed herself – no-one will ever know what provokes a person into suicide – and it’s vulgar of them to use her death to suit their own means. Inappropriate, insensitive, and let’s not forget, bullshit.
So, a headline that whinges about the unpredictable nature of a process that goes from partially to completely unpredictable after a week, and an article that exploits a person’s death to let them bitch about their personal grievances.
Did anyone read the Saturday Mails, two page spread on Peter Mandleson?
The proviso being, “he is leading the country at the minute” and “is the actual prime minister”.
I swear, they must have mentioned the fact he’s gay (I think he’s actually bi) or going out with a “young brazillian”, 15 times, in a two page article.
The story was, he’s gay! do you want a gay person running the country!?
Christo, constitutionally, ‘Mandy’ shouldn’t be running the country as he’s not a sitting MP. When the Prime Minister is away, Harriet Harman should take over (If she actually takes a break from slagging off our bankers for helping to ruin the economy). Even so, Gordon Brown has such useless talent amongst his own MPs that he has been forced to bring in a combination of outsiders and hasbeens in order to give an impression that the ‘government’ are putting forward key policies. What a way to run the country!
“Christo, constitutionally, ‘Mandy’ shouldn’t be running the country as he’s not a sitting MP. When the Prime Minister is away, Harriet Harman should take over (If she actually takes a break from slagging off our bankers for helping to ruin the economy). Even so, Gordon Brown has such useless talent amongst his own MPs that he has been forced to bring in a combination of outsiders and hasbeens in order to give an impression that the ‘government’ are putting forward key policies. What a way to run the country!”
Why the ex editor of the NOTW is Cameron’s number 2 then………….
Mandleson was only brought back to fight sleaze with sleaze
HAs anyone seen the new Daily Mail comment sections, on there stories.
It’s now uncensored, unmoderated, and free! Can you believe it. You can express your opinions on a daily mail article………
Oh, wait a minute, only certain stories allow free comments. They still actually “moderate” certain stories, because of “numbers of comments”.
In short, anything political, they continue to censor. The whole world thinks like us! Look at the comments! it’s obvious!
In only moderating political stories, they are next to admitting that they censor the comments board.
I tried to write a comment, about how Gary McKinnon is actually being charged because he deleted operating systems from US ARMY computers, so they crashed on re-booting – from the house of Lords statement. And not for harmless alien hunting.
I’m sure The Daily Mail just pick campaigns to annoy people like me. So I go on to their web site and read their trash on it.
As in, if you actually read the Gary McKinnon “summing up” notes, from every court in the land, as well as the house of lords, it’s quite obvious that the bloke was attacking Naval and Army computers, as a sort of “anti war” stance.
Deleting files, on operating systems, so they couldn’t reboot, when they were shut down. Deleting navy weapons cache logs, so they had what the hell was going on with their naval fleet.
All the while, leaving anti war messages, claiming he will continue to disrupt, until old Bush changes his foreign policy.
All of the actual US evidence, and allegation, is free for anyone to read. Via the “summing up” of the various court cases he has fought.
All court cases, he didn’t come close to winning by the way.
Does the Mail print any of this, or even contest it?
No, it’s just their usual one sided, ignorant, white wash – claiming he’s a gormless alien hunter, who just had a quick browse around a government computer, that err, someone left unlocked, outside his house……..
I swear they just do it to annoy, intelligent people, who actually seek out facts when they see a case like this
They just print straight lies as well. On the basis that half the buffoons reading it, take it as face value.
As in, they claim a Home Secretary can overturn these extradition decisions, based on the fact he supposedly has mild autism. They are going on the “exceptional circumstances” line in the rules.
It’s a complete complete lie. The actual legal rule is that a home secretary can overturn a decision, if there exceptional circumstances, involving the threat of torture and excecution in the country.
As in, if they think the person could be tortured or executed on extradition, they home secretary can step in. Ala Pinochet.
The Daily Mail of course, just plain ignore this.
I’m sure, in short, that the whole point of this campaign is the fact that a Labour government are extraditing him.
And by backing the guy, they get to shout “Don’t be a coward home secretary” on their front pages……..
I’m sure The Daily Mail just pick campaigns to annoy people like me. So I go on to their web site and read their trash on it.
As in, if you actually read the Gary McKinnon “summing up” notes, from every court in the land, as well as the house of lords, it’s quite obvious that the bloke was attacking Naval and Army computers, as a sort of “anti war” stance.
Deleting files, on operating systems, so they couldn’t reboot, when they were shut down. Deleting navy weapons cache logs, so they had what the hell was going on with their naval fleet.
All the while, leaving anti war messages, claiming he will continue to disrupt, until old Bush changes his foreign policy.
All of the actual US evidence, and allegation, is free for anyone to read. Via the “summing up” of the various court cases he has fought.
All court cases, he didn’t come close to winning by the way.
Does the Mail print any of this, or even contest it?
No, it’s just their usual one sided, ignorant, white wash – claiming he’s a gormless alien hunter, who just had a quick browse around a government computer, that err, someone left unlocked, outside his house……..
I swear they just do it to annoy, intelligent people, who actually seek out facts when they see a case like this
They just print straight lies as well. On the basis that half the buffoons reading it, take it as face value.
As in, they claim a Home Secretary can overturn these extradition decisions, based on the fact he supposedly has mild autism. They are going on the “exceptional circumstances” line in the rules.
It’s a complete complete lie. The actual legal rule is that a home secretary can overturn a decision, if there exceptional circumstances, involving the threat of torture and excecution in the country.
As in, if they think the person could be tortured or executed on extradition, they home secretary can step in. Ala Pinochet.
The Daily Mail of course, just plain ignore this.
I’m sure, in short, that the whole point of this campaign is the fact that a Labour government are extraditing him.
And by backing the guy, they get to shout “Don’t be a coward home secretary” on their front pages……..
““What does this woman’s suicide tell us about Britain today?”. Nothing. It’s no doubt a very sad case for the family, but suicides in the UK have fallen since 1991 and are now significantly less than when the Conservatives were in power: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1092 . I wonder if research would show that Mail readers, exposed to a daily dose of negativity, have a higher suicide rate than the populace as a whole.” -
I was just going to post this. It’s one of the classic Daily Fail tropes, to try and extrapolate vast generalisations from one emotive case. They do it on nearly every issue. ‘What does this uniquely vicious mentally ill feral child who ate the leg of a Crimean war veteran tell us about Britain today” etc etc
Maybe they read it in the Mail.
Weather forecasts are just that – forecasts. It’s impossible to predict the weather with any degree of certainty. You can say that the forthcoming summer would be a scorcher but there’s always going to be a chance that it won’t be. There’s still almost two more months of summer left anyway.
Oh, let me guess the Fail’s angle. Criswell Predicts: “This is definite proof that so-called global warming is bollocks.”
“What does this woman’s suicide tell us about Britain today?”. Nothing. It’s no doubt a very sad case for the family, but suicides in the UK have fallen since 1991 and are now significantly less than when the Conservatives were in power: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1092 . I wonder if research would show that Mail readers, exposed to a daily dose of negativity, have a higher suicide rate than the populace as a whole.
The forecast was just a 65% chance of a sunny summer; so that is a 1 in 3 chance of it not being sunny. The problem seems to be the met office press office putting out headlines for journalists to run with that were misleading.
Yes, the comments on the weather article are the usual idiotic “If its raining it can’t be global warming” rants. Because as we all know hot countries like Brazil, New Zealand, Bangladesh & Thailand never get heavy rains in the summer…
The article about the dead lawyer is trash:
“The coroner’s report, made public on Tuesday, states that post-natal depression played a big part in her final, ghastly decision.”
But then Rosie Boycott starts making up the usual family vs work story:
“But I suspect many other factors contributed to her awful and untimely death”
“I have no doubt”
“it must have been”
“I suspect that…”
“I am speculating here…”
“I’m not sure whether it is ever possible to hold down a job like Catherine’s and be the mother of three youngsters”
“Catherine, I suspect, lived her life on a treadmill like this”
Strangely, many of the comments pick her up on the quality of the journalism, there’s only one mad old fool:
“No doubt that this is a tragedy, but I lay most of the blame with the “feminists”, the Harmans of this world who wanted it all and are now suffering the SAME stress as men have done for decades. Welcome to the real world. Welcome to EQUALITY, all of it, warts and all.
- Cllr Jeremy Zeid (Con), Harrow, HMP-ENGLAND”
The lovely rosie boycott also states: ‘For in many ways I believe we are all responsible for Catherine’s death.’
Delightful to see such sensitivity to the family of this woman. What does that tell us about the journalism of today?
Blo*dy hell, the weather forecast wasn’t quite as predicted (but average temps are exactly where the forecast said they would be) and a well off profession’s suicide.
Yeah, that’s the DM priorities for what happened in the world yesterday!
The Mail and it’s readers dislike the Met Office as it frequently mentions “climate change” and this does not compute.
” A mother of three and a brilliant lawyer…what does this woman’s suicide tell us about Britain today?”
Ooo! I know. Let me answer please! please! It tells us that whatever prejudices Rosie Boycott had are right.
I don’t blame it on myself, yeah, I blame it on Zanuliebore.
But the rain goes on….
We’ve had some exceedingly nice days this summer.. and there are more to come. It’s not like it’s been raining every day, but the fail would have to point out the worst day and apply it to the whole of summer.
Its just so awful isn’t it? Those poor holiday makers who stayed at home and had to deal with RAIN of all things.
The world today makes me sick.
Eh, I wonder if that woman’s family are happy with her death being used as ANOTHER excuse to moan about almost everything the Mail hates in one go: the government, the ’state of our once great country’, female equality/women who want to have kids AND work, etc etc. They don’t actually know why she killed herself – no-one will ever know what provokes a person into suicide – and it’s vulgar of them to use her death to suit their own means. Inappropriate, insensitive, and let’s not forget, bullshit.
Women: know your limits! Or you might die!
It’s beyond me why any woman reads the Mail.
Presumably housewives and stay-at-home mums are immune to severe depression. Except single-parent stay-at-home mums who live on benefits, obviously.
Can you get much lower than making political capital out of someone’s suicide?
Its not the first time either.
Can a family bring a legal case against papers such as this when they discuss/speculate on a person’s death? Could it be some sort of libel?
I’d be amazed if they were open to that. I assume you can say what you like about the dead because they can’t sue.
I’d like to see privacy law cover it though. Anyone know anything about that?
So, a headline that whinges about the unpredictable nature of a process that goes from partially to completely unpredictable after a week, and an article that exploits a person’s death to let them bitch about their personal grievances.
What a rag.
Did anyone read the Saturday Mails, two page spread on Peter Mandleson?
The proviso being, “he is leading the country at the minute” and “is the actual prime minister”.
I swear, they must have mentioned the fact he’s gay (I think he’s actually bi) or going out with a “young brazillian”, 15 times, in a two page article.
The story was, he’s gay! do you want a gay person running the country!?
Hilarious
Christo, constitutionally, ‘Mandy’ shouldn’t be running the country as he’s not a sitting MP. When the Prime Minister is away, Harriet Harman should take over (If she actually takes a break from slagging off our bankers for helping to ruin the economy). Even so, Gordon Brown has such useless talent amongst his own MPs that he has been forced to bring in a combination of outsiders and hasbeens in order to give an impression that the ‘government’ are putting forward key policies. What a way to run the country!
“What a Shower … of Shite!”
We should leave t he running of the country to Neville and the editor of the Mail.
God help us all!
“Christo, constitutionally, ‘Mandy’ shouldn’t be running the country as he’s not a sitting MP. When the Prime Minister is away, Harriet Harman should take over (If she actually takes a break from slagging off our bankers for helping to ruin the economy). Even so, Gordon Brown has such useless talent amongst his own MPs that he has been forced to bring in a combination of outsiders and hasbeens in order to give an impression that the ‘government’ are putting forward key policies. What a way to run the country!”
Why the ex editor of the NOTW is Cameron’s number 2 then………….
Mandleson was only brought back to fight sleaze with sleaze
PS.
HAs anyone seen the new Daily Mail comment sections, on there stories.
It’s now uncensored, unmoderated, and free! Can you believe it. You can express your opinions on a daily mail article………
Oh, wait a minute, only certain stories allow free comments. They still actually “moderate” certain stories, because of “numbers of comments”.
In short, anything political, they continue to censor. The whole world thinks like us! Look at the comments! it’s obvious!
In only moderating political stories, they are next to admitting that they censor the comments board.
I tried to write a comment, about how Gary McKinnon is actually being charged because he deleted operating systems from US ARMY computers, so they crashed on re-booting – from the house of Lords statement. And not for harmless alien hunting.
Moderated…………
PS.
I’m sure The Daily Mail just pick campaigns to annoy people like me. So I go on to their web site and read their trash on it.
As in, if you actually read the Gary McKinnon “summing up” notes, from every court in the land, as well as the house of lords, it’s quite obvious that the bloke was attacking Naval and Army computers, as a sort of “anti war” stance.
Deleting files, on operating systems, so they couldn’t reboot, when they were shut down. Deleting navy weapons cache logs, so they had what the hell was going on with their naval fleet.
All the while, leaving anti war messages, claiming he will continue to disrupt, until old Bush changes his foreign policy.
All of the actual US evidence, and allegation, is free for anyone to read. Via the “summing up” of the various court cases he has fought.
All court cases, he didn’t come close to winning by the way.
Does the Mail print any of this, or even contest it?
No, it’s just their usual one sided, ignorant, white wash – claiming he’s a gormless alien hunter, who just had a quick browse around a government computer, that err, someone left unlocked, outside his house……..
I swear they just do it to annoy, intelligent people, who actually seek out facts when they see a case like this
They just print straight lies as well. On the basis that half the buffoons reading it, take it as face value.
As in, they claim a Home Secretary can overturn these extradition decisions, based on the fact he supposedly has mild autism. They are going on the “exceptional circumstances” line in the rules.
It’s a complete complete lie. The actual legal rule is that a home secretary can overturn a decision, if there exceptional circumstances, involving the threat of torture and excecution in the country.
As in, if they think the person could be tortured or executed on extradition, they home secretary can step in. Ala Pinochet.
The Daily Mail of course, just plain ignore this.
I’m sure, in short, that the whole point of this campaign is the fact that a Labour government are extraditing him.
And by backing the guy, they get to shout “Don’t be a coward home secretary” on their front pages……..
PS.
I’m sure The Daily Mail just pick campaigns to annoy people like me. So I go on to their web site and read their trash on it.
As in, if you actually read the Gary McKinnon “summing up” notes, from every court in the land, as well as the house of lords, it’s quite obvious that the bloke was attacking Naval and Army computers, as a sort of “anti war” stance.
Deleting files, on operating systems, so they couldn’t reboot, when they were shut down. Deleting navy weapons cache logs, so they had what the hell was going on with their naval fleet.
All the while, leaving anti war messages, claiming he will continue to disrupt, until old Bush changes his foreign policy.
All of the actual US evidence, and allegation, is free for anyone to read. Via the “summing up” of the various court cases he has fought.
All court cases, he didn’t come close to winning by the way.
Does the Mail print any of this, or even contest it?
No, it’s just their usual one sided, ignorant, white wash – claiming he’s a gormless alien hunter, who just had a quick browse around a government computer, that err, someone left unlocked, outside his house……..
I swear they just do it to annoy, intelligent people, who actually seek out facts when they see a case like this
They just print straight lies as well. On the basis that half the buffoons reading it, take it as face value.
As in, they claim a Home Secretary can overturn these extradition decisions, based on the fact he supposedly has mild autism. They are going on the “exceptional circumstances” line in the rules.
It’s a complete complete lie. The actual legal rule is that a home secretary can overturn a decision, if there exceptional circumstances, involving the threat of torture and excecution in the country.
As in, if they think the person could be tortured or executed on extradition, they home secretary can step in. Ala Pinochet.
The Daily Mail of course, just plain ignore this.
I’m sure, in short, that the whole point of this campaign is the fact that a Labour government are extraditing him.
And by backing the guy, they get to shout “Don’t be a coward home secretary” on their front pages……..
““What does this woman’s suicide tell us about Britain today?”. Nothing. It’s no doubt a very sad case for the family, but suicides in the UK have fallen since 1991 and are now significantly less than when the Conservatives were in power: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1092 . I wonder if research would show that Mail readers, exposed to a daily dose of negativity, have a higher suicide rate than the populace as a whole.” -
I was just going to post this. It’s one of the classic Daily Fail tropes, to try and extrapolate vast generalisations from one emotive case. They do it on nearly every issue. ‘What does this uniquely vicious mentally ill feral child who ate the leg of a Crimean war veteran tell us about Britain today” etc etc