Fucking weirdos, spouting anti-immigration bile all over the place based on bogus data and sledgehammer-subtle xenophobia. Today they have the gall to attack Nick Griffin.
The gov. are on one side of the dispute (the RM being a nationalised industry they have little choice on that), the union on the other, and the employees stuck in the middle.
I don’t see how that’s ‘tearing labour apart’, unless the DM is under the impression it’s still the 1970s – Labour hasn’t been run by Unions for years (heck, these days it barely acknowleges their existence).
The only way parties like the BNP and the other parties like UKIP, one step away, can be stopped would be if everyone was made accountable for how they voted. Voting is not a right, it is a privilege, no one should be allowed to vote for a hate party without some responsibility. I reckon that there has to be a searchable database of how everyone voted. I doubt people would vote for nazis if their neighbours and employers were aware of how they voted!
ally, are you just making an investment? You figure in return for your donation Herr Griffin will make you a gauleiter once the master race has taken power..?
Davo, democracy brought in Hitler, people thought that they were safe secretly voting for people like that. People think they are safe voting for the BNP. If an employer could see how people voted it might stop extremist parties getting elected. So what about democracy? just because a lot of people make a choice it doesn’t mean it is the right one.
sad lefties,so you want employers to sack workers who have a diffrent opinion than our fascist leaders,so the support for the bnp in the offshore industry which i work in,would mean thousands of workers unemployed,great thinking guys,also tonel yes i have plenty pocket money to give,as i have a nice salary.
Marcs, please don’t make me have to agree with right-wing trolls like ally. You seem to be suggesting that we should avoid the rise of anti-democratic parties like the bnp by…erm…becoming anti-democratic, which just seems batshit insane to me.
The secret ballot was brought in to UK elections in 1872 precisely because voters had been put under pressure to vote a certain way, normally by employers or landlords. To go back to that situation would not be a positive step. Back in the 1980’s I was in a left-wing organisation (the SPGB) and firmly believe that for that reason I was on the files of a lovely little organisation called the Economic League that existed to warn employers of potential subversives that they might be about to employ. Do you approve of organisations like that or would you agree that my political activities – as long as they are lawful – are no fucking business of any employer?
And please don’t make comparisons with Hitler because this is not 1930’s Germany and a whole load of other considerations apply.
Voting should remain confidential. Democracy is still a flawed concept however. People clamour for a vote on the Lisbon treaty yet their only info on it would have been fed to them by the tabloids. Wouldn’t it be better if we could only vote once we knew exactly what the ramifications of our choice of vote would be?
chris typical pathetic comment from you,i never went to uni,but i have worked in a skilled job all over the world and in uk .so lefties like you laugh at the working class,how sad,i can guarantee i have a lot more experience than most of the losers on here.
ally (sic), no one is laughing at the working class, but here’s some vinegar for that chip on your shoulder – fuck off. There’s no inherent nobility in being born to any class nor is there a conspiracy to destroy the working class unless you count the opportunity to take further education at a discount, with a loan, and move up the ‘class ladder’. Travelling around the world seems to have done you no good at all since you don’t seem to have looked any further than the tip of your own cock, so stop embarrassing yourself by claiming to be world wise. Even if If you were Lord Ally of Righteousness and could capitalize your own name, place spaces after comas, and holiday in Monaco and dine on swan you’d still be an idiot.
How many times? It’s not about right or left – or ‘leftie’ (1983 is on the phone, they’d like their political dictionary back) it’s about The Daily Mail being insane. This time they’re in a muddle over the BNP when they clearly have advocated much of what the current front of the BNP is wants. They certainly share the phobias.
Anyway, I’m enjoying the ‘no fair’ that some BNP supporters are claiming because the other panelists actually took time to do some research on Griffin before their appearance on a show that would be watched by millions more than usual. Yeah, pick on the swots why don’t you, and not on the words of the pallid fungus the bogeyman who constantly claims to be misquoted but demonstrably wasn’t.
I did feel a bit sorry for him, though. I’m not sure what he thought he could accomplish unless he hand picked the audience, then I see that ‘Bonnie Greer was excellent’ received over a thousand red down arrows on Mail online and I think – sod him and the drones that follow him. The idea of making Britain’s population mirror that of the end of the last ice age is possibly the dumbest, most naive and Neanderthal thing I have ever heard anyone say, ever. No doubt NG was drugged by the leftie cabal that runs the BBC beforehand because you’d get more sense out of a drunken prairie dog than what that knob was advocating.
He’s not a weirdo. He’s a bastard.
What do the Mail have against lemmings?
Fucking weirdos, spouting anti-immigration bile all over the place based on bogus data and sledgehammer-subtle xenophobia. Today they have the gall to attack Nick Griffin.
Lemmings?? Is that because they follow each others lead?? If so, is that not the basis of a union??
Nice, the headline appears to have no connection to the story. Otherwise I’d think all the lemmings in the UK had gone on strike.
Now there’s a sentence I never thought I’d read…
The gov. are on one side of the dispute (the RM being a nationalised industry they have little choice on that), the union on the other, and the employees stuck in the middle.
I don’t see how that’s ‘tearing labour apart’, unless the DM is under the impression it’s still the 1970s – Labour hasn’t been run by Unions for years (heck, these days it barely acknowleges their existence).
A strike is hardly suicidal if 42′000 people are on it.
You can’t sack 42′000 people! The payouts would be massive!
The only way parties like the BNP and the other parties like UKIP, one step away, can be stopped would be if everyone was made accountable for how they voted. Voting is not a right, it is a privilege, no one should be allowed to vote for a hate party without some responsibility. I reckon that there has to be a searchable database of how everyone voted. I doubt people would vote for nazis if their neighbours and employers were aware of how they voted!
Yeah as someone mentioned above Labour have ignored the Unions for Years.
great to see all the fascist leftie thugs making a fool of themselves outside bbc,who are the real thugs?
just donated a wad of cash to the bnp tonight,thank you lefties,keep up the good work,lol
I can tell you’re university material Ally – fascist leftie… er wossat then.
ally:
“who are the real thugs?”
BNP members who, on telly, talk of their dreams of blowing us mosques?
Marcs…wow…so you’re saying that my employer should be able to find out how I voted. That would be fucking marvellous for democracy wouldn’t it?
ally, are you just making an investment? You figure in return for your donation Herr Griffin will make you a gauleiter once the master race has taken power..?
Ally:
“just donated a wad of cash to the bnp tonight”
That’s all your pocket money gone? What a waste.
Davo, democracy brought in Hitler, people thought that they were safe secretly voting for people like that. People think they are safe voting for the BNP. If an employer could see how people voted it might stop extremist parties getting elected. So what about democracy? just because a lot of people make a choice it doesn’t mean it is the right one.
sad lefties,so you want employers to sack workers who have a diffrent opinion than our fascist leaders,so the support for the bnp in the offshore industry which i work in,would mean thousands of workers unemployed,great thinking guys,also tonel yes i have plenty pocket money to give,as i have a nice salary.
Marcs, please don’t make me have to agree with right-wing trolls like ally. You seem to be suggesting that we should avoid the rise of anti-democratic parties like the bnp by…erm…becoming anti-democratic, which just seems batshit insane to me.
The secret ballot was brought in to UK elections in 1872 precisely because voters had been put under pressure to vote a certain way, normally by employers or landlords. To go back to that situation would not be a positive step. Back in the 1980’s I was in a left-wing organisation (the SPGB) and firmly believe that for that reason I was on the files of a lovely little organisation called the Economic League that existed to warn employers of potential subversives that they might be about to employ. Do you approve of organisations like that or would you agree that my political activities – as long as they are lawful – are no fucking business of any employer?
And please don’t make comparisons with Hitler because this is not 1930’s Germany and a whole load of other considerations apply.
Voting should remain confidential. Democracy is still a flawed concept however. People clamour for a vote on the Lisbon treaty yet their only info on it would have been fed to them by the tabloids. Wouldn’t it be better if we could only vote once we knew exactly what the ramifications of our choice of vote would be?
What will happen when the Oil Runs out Ally…………..Did in the 90’s
chris typical pathetic comment from you,i never went to uni,but i have worked in a skilled job all over the world and in uk .so lefties like you laugh at the working class,how sad,i can guarantee i have a lot more experience than most of the losers on here.
You’re killing me with your wit.
Maybe if we stop responding to ally’s rants and tantrums, he’ll go away and take out his obvious anger somewhere else.
Interesting that he never responds to my posts, though…
ally (sic), no one is laughing at the working class, but here’s some vinegar for that chip on your shoulder – fuck off. There’s no inherent nobility in being born to any class nor is there a conspiracy to destroy the working class unless you count the opportunity to take further education at a discount, with a loan, and move up the ‘class ladder’. Travelling around the world seems to have done you no good at all since you don’t seem to have looked any further than the tip of your own cock, so stop embarrassing yourself by claiming to be world wise. Even if If you were Lord Ally of Righteousness and could capitalize your own name, place spaces after comas, and holiday in Monaco and dine on swan you’d still be an idiot.
How many times? It’s not about right or left – or ‘leftie’ (1983 is on the phone, they’d like their political dictionary back) it’s about The Daily Mail being insane. This time they’re in a muddle over the BNP when they clearly have advocated much of what the current front of the BNP is wants. They certainly share the phobias.
Anyway, I’m enjoying the ‘no fair’ that some BNP supporters are claiming because the other panelists actually took time to do some research on Griffin before their appearance on a show that would be watched by millions more than usual. Yeah, pick on the swots why don’t you, and not on the words of the pallid fungus the bogeyman who constantly claims to be misquoted but demonstrably wasn’t.
I did feel a bit sorry for him, though. I’m not sure what he thought he could accomplish unless he hand picked the audience, then I see that ‘Bonnie Greer was excellent’ received over a thousand red down arrows on Mail online and I think – sod him and the drones that follow him. The idea of making Britain’s population mirror that of the end of the last ice age is possibly the dumbest, most naive and Neanderthal thing I have ever heard anyone say, ever. No doubt NG was drugged by the leftie cabal that runs the BBC beforehand because you’d get more sense out of a drunken prairie dog than what that knob was advocating.