“Legal proceedings are now almost certain to drag on beyond the General Election, raising optimism among Gary’s supporters that the Tories will halt the extradition if they win.”
The online version says “Mr Johnson ruled in November that extraditing Gary would not breach Labour’s own Human Rights Act.” Does this mean the Mail thinks the Human Rights Act is desirable in some circumstances? Like in the case of a white British, non-muslim who hasn’t openly supported Labour?
i was watching Kelvin McKenzie (Thatcherism in human form) on Sky News last night discussing this headline.
He was amazed, completely amazed that the Mail were campaigning for this. As in truth, it flys directly in the face with most of their principles.
As in, they are generally the ones claiming criminals make up “illnesses” to avoid prison. They are generally the ones who mock “dyslexia” and various other minor mental problems as “elf and safety” and all that.
And yet they are campaigning for a self confessed criminal to avoid a prison sentence (the UK doesn’t have the laws to inprison him – that’s the only reason he wants to stay here) on the basis that he has “aspergers”…….
You know, don’t say 50% of criminals have some mental problems? And wouldn’t the same 50% feel a bit depressed about being inprisoned?
McKenzie was hinting heavily that the support is in fact a bit of a conflict of interest. As in, there are personal reasons between the paper, and the person, why they are backing him.
He more than likely hacked Thatcher’s e-mail as well, and found some compromising messages!
As for the chances of Cameron blocking the extradition, once the legal avenues are finished.
0. Nil. None whatsoever.
Governments can’t just block extraditions, because they feel sorry for the person.
The courts decide the law. And then you just follow it.
There isn’t the smallest chance that a new tory government will block this, if they are in power.
It’s easy to criticise when you are opposition. “whatever they did, which you don’t like, we will do the opposite” sort of politics.
There is no way Cameron will harbour a criminal the Americans want. On the principle that we rely on the US hugely for the sharing of intelligence, and things like that
This comment currently has a score of -489, I can’t understand why (although most of the positively-scored comments blame the McCanns):
“I still pray for Little Maddy’s save return. there is NO- real evidence she is dead. I will believe the McCann’s untill is proven otherwise, people say that it is stupid they still try to make the headlines after almost 3 years, WHOU WOULDNT if their precious child was missing. Wouldn’t you try teh same? They luck they have is that Madeleine is just such a precious and goodlooking kid, a kid who can be on the front of the paper. Why not help them and their search for Madeleine. Even if she’s dead, and dumped somewhere we need to know the truth so her family can lay her to rest and start to grieve.
Anyways, I am still praying and hoping for her save retrun. Wouldn’t you want that for your child?
stevie h, i can understand why…
“They luck they have is that Madeleine is just such a precious and goodlooking kid, a kid who can be on the front of the paper.”
even mail readers have stopped thinking that she’s soooo much more important than every other missing child on the planet just because shes photogenic.
I see the Mail ran such a successful campaign for that guy who was mentally ill and was recently executed in China due to drug smuggling, even though people had serious doubts, oh I forget the government was trying to help him, my mistake.
How about the Iranian teenager who was being refused asylum in this country even though his BF had been murdered for being Gay in Iran, and almost certaintly as soon as he arrived back he would suffer the same fate, oh wait he’s Gay and Iranian.
Both above are as much a Affront to British democracy and justice as Mr McKinnon’s case which seems from what I’ve read not to be as straight forward as the others, but yet those cases were never mentioned, this one is I wonder?
Imagine the Mail backing if it had been a muslim Brit hacking the pentagon:
“A friend says he was a member of a extremist group”.
“A source said he left jihadist messages, and was looking for the codes for nuclear weapons”
“He is cyincally fighting justice, with unsubstanciated claims of mental illness from a quack doctor”
Mail Comment board:
“I bet he is using tax payer funding to fight extradition for his crime”
“String him up!”
“Muslims can’t be trusted in the UK, as they break the law”
Why is this on the front page today of all days?
“Legal proceedings are now almost certain to drag on beyond the General Election, raising optimism among Gary’s supporters that the Tories will halt the extradition if they win.”
OK. Understood.
Indeed – surely there’s only one news article that can go on the front page today. It certainly isn’t this.
The Tories are even more pro American than New Labour, plus Cameron would want to suck up to Barack Obama, so I can’t see that happening.
The online version says “Mr Johnson ruled in November that extraditing Gary would not breach Labour’s own Human Rights Act.” Does this mean the Mail thinks the Human Rights Act is desirable in some circumstances? Like in the case of a white British, non-muslim who hasn’t openly supported Labour?
Crouching Tiger
i was watching Kelvin McKenzie (Thatcherism in human form) on Sky News last night discussing this headline.
He was amazed, completely amazed that the Mail were campaigning for this. As in truth, it flys directly in the face with most of their principles.
As in, they are generally the ones claiming criminals make up “illnesses” to avoid prison. They are generally the ones who mock “dyslexia” and various other minor mental problems as “elf and safety” and all that.
And yet they are campaigning for a self confessed criminal to avoid a prison sentence (the UK doesn’t have the laws to inprison him – that’s the only reason he wants to stay here) on the basis that he has “aspergers”…….
You know, don’t say 50% of criminals have some mental problems? And wouldn’t the same 50% feel a bit depressed about being inprisoned?
McKenzie was hinting heavily that the support is in fact a bit of a conflict of interest. As in, there are personal reasons between the paper, and the person, why they are backing him.
He more than likely hacked Thatcher’s e-mail as well, and found some compromising messages!
As for the chances of Cameron blocking the extradition, once the legal avenues are finished.
0. Nil. None whatsoever.
Governments can’t just block extraditions, because they feel sorry for the person.
The courts decide the law. And then you just follow it.
There isn’t the smallest chance that a new tory government will block this, if they are in power.
It’s easy to criticise when you are opposition. “whatever they did, which you don’t like, we will do the opposite” sort of politics.
There is no way Cameron will harbour a criminal the Americans want. On the principle that we rely on the US hugely for the sharing of intelligence, and things like that
Many thousands die in third world country – bottom of page 7?
Graham: Many thousands, but how many English……?
Sad but true
100′000 dead and the Mail are leading with this?
FFS!
A lot of DM readers won’t care about a load of dead forrins, apart from guffawing that “there’ll be less to come over here!”
Gary MacKinnon and the McCanns are both DM campaigns though, so are therefore much more important.
Flip – looks like you’re right; the Haiti incident is now the top story on the Mail website, and guess why…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1243176/Haiti-earthquake-Horrifying-images-destruction-death-toll-threatens-hit-100-000.html
This comment currently has a score of -489, I can’t understand why (although most of the positively-scored comments blame the McCanns):
“I still pray for Little Maddy’s save return. there is NO- real evidence she is dead. I will believe the McCann’s untill is proven otherwise, people say that it is stupid they still try to make the headlines after almost 3 years, WHOU WOULDNT if their precious child was missing. Wouldn’t you try teh same? They luck they have is that Madeleine is just such a precious and goodlooking kid, a kid who can be on the front of the paper. Why not help them and their search for Madeleine. Even if she’s dead, and dumped somewhere we need to know the truth so her family can lay her to rest and start to grieve.
Anyways, I am still praying and hoping for her save retrun. Wouldn’t you want that for your child?
With much prayers from holland,
- Mies, Holland”
stevie h, i can understand why…
“They luck they have is that Madeleine is just such a precious and goodlooking kid, a kid who can be on the front of the paper.”
even mail readers have stopped thinking that she’s soooo much more important than every other missing child on the planet just because shes photogenic.
I see the Mail ran such a successful campaign for that guy who was mentally ill and was recently executed in China due to drug smuggling, even though people had serious doubts, oh I forget the government was trying to help him, my mistake.
How about the Iranian teenager who was being refused asylum in this country even though his BF had been murdered for being Gay in Iran, and almost certaintly as soon as he arrived back he would suffer the same fate, oh wait he’s Gay and Iranian.
Both above are as much a Affront to British democracy and justice as Mr McKinnon’s case which seems from what I’ve read not to be as straight forward as the others, but yet those cases were never mentioned, this one is I wonder?
Tom Cruise have dyslexia and yet he is still a very successful actor.:“
dyslexia is not that debiliating but it is somewhat limiting to the kind of job that you can get’,,