Ah so it’s Clegg that’s going to get the blame for cutting the pensions of all the nurses, police, firefighters and military, while CallMeDave will get the credit for sorting out the quangos.
Actually Dai, the whole f*cking point is they are getting a massive amount more than they put in. And the money has to come from somewhere – probably you. So some lazy jobsowrth who spends their days being corrupt and failing to help those that need it can retire on 2/3 salary at 55.
Laugh? I nearly died.
Might they, to be fair, compare public sector salaries with those in the private sector for those with equitable qualifications and skills? No, thought not.
And £18b is still fairly minimal compared to the £40b per year lost through tax-dodgers like Rothermere.
Out of date, NJH. The knee-jerk reaction is ‘what would cease to happen if you stopped going to work?’ And in far too many public sector instances, the answer is that life would be better for council tax payers.
And bear in mind that private sector workers mainly had defined salary pension schemes until….
The £40b is a hypothetical made up number based on ’supposing we could imprison all the rich people’ logic – and you can;t. Ever. The pension deficit however is an actual incoming cost. Un dodgable unless the government says ‘no’ and fights the public services unions (aka the Labour client state)
I pay into a Civil Service pension and that was included into my contract (Notice paid in and contract) if the government want to tear up contracts they can try but Labour went to court over the compensation scheme and the Law threw that out.
Good Luck…. (Not trying to sound patronising, I won’t be in the civil service come next may as I’m on a FTC) However I don’t believe any frontline person or medium civil servant who has worked any part of their lives in the civil service should be treated like a political football.
The Tax Payers Alliance pepped up again until of course someone mentioned their stance on nom doms (They then shut up)
The Daily Mail clearly neglects to mention the fact that these “killer foxes” are in the cities and towns because the Hoorah’s penchant for zoosadism made city living a far safer proposition than staying in the country and being torn to pieces in a sick ritualised slaughter.
Lady Burglar have a modicum of sensibility. Whilst my sympathy goes to the parents and the children it has to be remembered that this is nature at work and not the work of man (though the result may have been caused by man).
Urban foxes are not ‘vermin’, but they do eat rats and mice if they can’t just have a nice dinner from a poorly secured bin although it’s usually domestic dogs and cats that do that.
It’s a shame about the (incredibly rare) attack, but to see a fox at night is a not uncommon treat. Reassuringly, the number of green arrows on that story’s web page prove not all readers are being as irrational as the front page suggests they should be.
Is there actually any evidence that the children were mauled by a fox, other than Mummy saying so? It all seems designed to conveniently dovetail with the Tories plan to rescind the hunting ban.
This morning there was one in my back garden foraging about.
It appeared to be trampling the lawn and then eating the worms that emerged.
I was concerned for the neighbours cat that forages for birds at the same time.
When said cat showed up, the fox pushed off PDQ seeming very nervous.
Maybe this was a wimpy specimen, but I had trouble reconciling recent stories of dingo like rapaciousness with my own new neighbour.
I do not suppose that anyone on a pension of £8,000 would see it as gold plated.
OK, so close to where some children were unfortunately attacked by foxes someone has spotted some … foxes. Is that news?
Ah so it’s Clegg that’s going to get the blame for cutting the pensions of all the nurses, police, firefighters and military, while CallMeDave will get the credit for sorting out the quangos.
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Richard Jones, mailwatch. mailwatch said: Front Page: Mail: http://bit.ly/bVCKkW #media #dailymail [...]
It actually looks like the Mail are being quite supportive of him, but then that’s to be expected in a story about the public sector.
Stupid DM! That’s clearly a vixen.
Yep, and clearly out to eat babies and not mice, rats and to rummage through rubbish.
Did they think the local fox population would have read the papers and run off back to Fathing Wood or something?
[...] Mail | Daily Mail Watch [...]
“gold-plated” in this instance means that one can reasonably expect to receive what has been paid in, plus a wee bit of interest.
A proper, private sector pension is one where the chairman can arbitrarily steal the whole thing and buy a boat.
Those damned foxes, savaging our children, stealing our women and taking our jobs. What is happening to this green and pleasant land?
‘god-plated’
Some actual figures would be nice DM.
I’m sure the top brass will get good pensions, just as top brass in the private sector do.
Traps set to lure foxes to garden.
Foxes come to garden.
Front page news…
Actually Dai, the whole f*cking point is they are getting a massive amount more than they put in. And the money has to come from somewhere – probably you. So some lazy jobsowrth who spends their days being corrupt and failing to help those that need it can retire on 2/3 salary at 55.
Laugh? I nearly died.
Might they, to be fair, compare public sector salaries with those in the private sector for those with equitable qualifications and skills? No, thought not.
And £18b is still fairly minimal compared to the £40b per year lost through tax-dodgers like Rothermere.
Out of date, NJH. The knee-jerk reaction is ‘what would cease to happen if you stopped going to work?’ And in far too many public sector instances, the answer is that life would be better for council tax payers.
And bear in mind that private sector workers mainly had defined salary pension schemes until….
The £40b is a hypothetical made up number based on ’supposing we could imprison all the rich people’ logic – and you can;t. Ever. The pension deficit however is an actual incoming cost. Un dodgable unless the government says ‘no’ and fights the public services unions (aka the Labour client state)
Gold plated, not even four carrot then?
I pay into a Civil Service pension and that was included into my contract (Notice paid in and contract) if the government want to tear up contracts they can try but Labour went to court over the compensation scheme and the Law threw that out.
Good Luck…. (Not trying to sound patronising, I won’t be in the civil service come next may as I’m on a FTC) However I don’t believe any frontline person or medium civil servant who has worked any part of their lives in the civil service should be treated like a political football.
The Tax Payers Alliance pepped up again until of course someone mentioned their stance on nom doms (They then shut up)
The Daily Mail clearly neglects to mention the fact that these “killer foxes” are in the cities and towns because the Hoorah’s penchant for zoosadism made city living a far safer proposition than staying in the country and being torn to pieces in a sick ritualised slaughter.
I thought it was more to do with natural habitat being expanded into.
do they want to cut the “gold-plated” pensions of “our boys” too then? or will they be a special case because they’re “heroes”
The Mail’s being a bit unfair to itself there – I don’t think it’s unaffordable.
Do, please, have some modicum of sympathy for the poor babies that were mauled by a fox. It is after all vermin.
And today – 300 and rising readers going batshit mental about plastic trumpets in the opposite hemisphere.
I wonder whether there’s anything that doesn’t make them angry.
Lady Burglar have a modicum of sensibility. Whilst my sympathy goes to the parents and the children it has to be remembered that this is nature at work and not the work of man (though the result may have been caused by man).
Urban foxes are not ‘vermin’, but they do eat rats and mice if they can’t just have a nice dinner from a poorly secured bin although it’s usually domestic dogs and cats that do that.
It’s a shame about the (incredibly rare) attack, but to see a fox at night is a not uncommon treat. Reassuringly, the number of green arrows on that story’s web page prove not all readers are being as irrational as the front page suggests they should be.
Is there actually any evidence that the children were mauled by a fox, other than Mummy saying so? It all seems designed to conveniently dovetail with the Tories plan to rescind the hunting ban.
Killer Evil Immigrant Nu-Lab Labour Voting Hoodie Foxes swarm into Britain and attack hardworking families – AND GUESS WHO’S PAYING?!
This morning there was one in my back garden foraging about.
It appeared to be trampling the lawn and then eating the worms that emerged.
I was concerned for the neighbours cat that forages for birds at the same time.
When said cat showed up, the fox pushed off PDQ seeming very nervous.
Maybe this was a wimpy specimen, but I had trouble reconciling recent stories of dingo like rapaciousness with my own new neighbour.