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Maybe in 30 years time we'll be looking back at today's criminals and thinking "Remember that Maxine Carr? What a great woman....they just don't make child abductors like they used to".



On a point of order Chris, Maxine Carr didn't actually abduct the two girls, nor had any part to play in their murder. Her crime was that she was stupid enough to give Huntley an alibi.


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Remember when even the criminals were good? ancient mariner takes us back in their thread Honour Among Villains?:

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What happened to the "Lovable Rogues?" The Wide-lads always willing to take a chance for some fast cash. However, in spite of their unlawful ways, when cornered they simply threw up their hands with, "Fair cop."

Unlike today's villains who will tool-up (at least four of them) to go after a mother with a pram, a heavily pregnant mother, an innocent child, or OAPs preferrably almost invalid. If they get cornered they will try to take a hostage of a mother with child or pregnant or an OAP, and threaten them with the most despicable violence.

In the old days the criminal community would turn-in anyone with the sort of crime record current villains take pride in.

What I keep asking myself is, "How did we come to raise a generation of people that live by such in-human values."
They seem to plumb greater depths of depravity each day.

Is there anything decent people can do to keep these feral groups off the streets?

Becoming increasing concerned for civilised society
Ancient Mariner



Blimey, is this man confusing films with real life. Does he realise that the Ealiing Comedies and Norman Wisdom films given away with the Mail aren't real life ?


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Maybe in 30 years time we'll be looking back at today's criminals and thinking "Remember that Maxine Carr? What a great woman....they just don't make child abductors like they used to".



On a point of order Chris, Maxine Carr didn't actually abduct the two girls, nor had any part to play in their murder. Her crime was that she was stupid enough to give Huntley an alibi.


Yeah, which she should of been sent to prison forever without parole.....oh thats what the Sun wanted. :roll:


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Maybe in 30 years time we'll be looking back at today's criminals and thinking "Remember that Maxine Carr? What a great woman....they just don't make child abductors like they used to".



On a point of order Chris, Maxine Carr didn't actually abduct the two girls, nor had any part to play in their murder. Her crime was that she was stupid enough to give Huntley an alibi.


Yeah, which she should of been sent to prison forever without parole.....oh thats what the Sun wanted. :roll:


Well as we all know, it is a far greater crime if women go against their natural maternal instinct. Men might murder children, but it is far worse for women for breaching this "instinct". As such they must be villified so no other women think about being in relationships with men they are either abused by, or are unaware of their murderous tendancies.

Pffft, look at how the media treated Myra Hindley compared to Ian Brady


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Who voted for Labour?:

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I didn't. Apparently it was a very small minority who voted them in. Something like 22% of the voters. And the Tories got more actual votes but because of the way these things work, NuLabour got in. And the rest is history. Horrible, isn't it?


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So where on Earth did the other 78% of the votes so then? Perhaps they were stolen by immigrants and asylum seekers.


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Juneflowers is re-writing history now..."tories got more actual votes" - well no actually, they didn't. "horrible isn't it"...well no, not half as horrible as it would have been if Michael Howard had won...that WOULD have been a nightmare, and could well have heralded the break-up of the UK.


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In the Lovable Rogues thread, wbodie decided to blame video games for crime, one of my pet hates, so I went in, armed with the hammer of knowledge.

I'm piglet 916, and I'm not sure, but I think I won.

http://chat.dailymail.co.uk/dailymail/t ... e=11625295

Starts with post in the middle of the screen, it doesn't flow very well due to the way the messages are ordered on the Mail forum, but if it changes one person's perceptions of games, it'll be time well spent.


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wbodie - is he the same person who thinks Richard Littlejohn is a hero? I feel sure (s)he's been mentioned before. Anyway, I love how (s)he gets into the passive-aggressive thing of "well, obviously ONLY YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OPINION! TASTE THE PERSECUTION!!!" Stupid person :roll:


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In the Lovable Rogues thread, wbodie decided to blame video games for crime, one of my pet hates, so I went in, armed with the hammer of knowledge.

I'm piglet 916, and I'm not sure, but I think I won.

http://chat.dailymail.co.uk/dailymail/t ... e=11625295

Starts with post in the middle of the screen, it doesn't flow very well due to the way the messages are ordered on the Mail forum, but if it changes one person's perceptions of games, it'll be time well spent.


Rational argument backed by facts is obviously alien to some of those people. To anyone with a brain, it's obvious that you came out better in that discussion, but I suspect wbodie's reaction will be just to feel more threatened and persecuted by the modern world. Such people like being out of step with the modern world, and the more opposition they face on that front, the more it confirms their belief that they're right. And if the opposition quotes statistics, even better, because everyone knows that bright people armed with facts and figures aren't to be trusted. wbodie sounds like Homer Simpson: "Phfft! Facts. You can use them to prove anything".

I see crocodile_1 knows why criminals aren't the lovable people they used to be, and you'd never guess who's to blame:

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I think these people still exist to a certain degree but the influx of foreign criminal gangs/drug dealers/people smugglers and racketeers has all but made the "wide boy" extinct.


FFS!

If someone in that forum suggested that the solution to much current crime is to decriminalise drugs, things would get ugly...


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Winston O'Hoodie wrote:
Juneflowers is re-writing history now..."tories got more actual votes" - well no actually, they didn't. "horrible isn't it"...well no, not half as horrible as it would have been if Michael Howard had won...that WOULD have been a nightmare, and could well have heralded the break-up of the UK.


Bizarrely I think she was descibing Labour's 1997 landslide win...


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2005:
Labour - 9,562,122
Conservatives: 8,772,598
Lib Dem: 5,981,874
Others: 2,802,133

Of course, only 27,110,727 actually voted.

But had the 30million who didn't go to the polls, voted who is to say that they would have voted Tory? Oh, because they're the silent majority. So silent, in fact, that they choose not to vote? Groundbreaking stuff.


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Comment on the girl who died of a Paracetamol overdose...

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Why not just ban this drug? There are plenty of better drugs available, including 'alternative' painkillers that do not kill you.

If 'even small amounts' can kill you, then obviously any amount will cause some toxicity in the body and to the liver.

- John, Ronda, Spain


Ban medicine now! Anyway, if I were to eat vitamin-A rich polar bear liver, I'd die a very painful death from a 'small amount' of vitamin A. Ban Vitamin A and polar bears now!

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I have never met anybody from the "Far Right", has anybody else? It is like talking about the bogey man. It is just something that the Left uses to frighten people with so that they will do as they want. The Far Right are not destroying our country, Left wing fascism is destroying our country.

- Mr. J. Smith, Birmingham, England


I have never met anybody from the "Far Left", has anybody else? It is like talking about the bogey man. It is just something that the Right uses to frighten people with so that they will do as they want....

And so it goes on, 'people on my side never go too far, it's those bastards who disagree with me who are being fascists...'

Employing women to cover football is politically-incorrect, apparently...

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Hoorah! Let's get rid of all these "politically-correct" appointees we see so much of on TV (particularly ITV) nowadays. And let's replace them all with good regular guys like Steve, who everybody has a respect for.

- C Beniston, Manchester


I thought the BBC was full of loony lefties, but now they are infesting ITV!


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Employing women to cover football is politically-incorrect, apparently...

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Hoorah! Let's get rid of all these "politically-correct" appointees we see so much of on TV (particularly ITV) nowadays. And let's replace them all with good regular guys like Steve, who everybody has a respect for.

- C Beniston, Manchester


I thought the BBC was full of loony lefties, but now they are infesting ITV!


Why do some people feel so threatened by women commenting on football? I don't follow the game myself, but if I did I wouldn't have a problem with a woman reporting on it, provided she knew her stuff. And there's certainly no reason why women shouldn't understand the game. I just don't get it.

I don't know which woman is being talked about here, but I'll hazard a guess that she's attractive, and that "political correctness" had very little to do with her appointment.


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Gabby Logan replaced Des on ITV. She's not bad, probably let down by having to work with Ally McCoist, Andy Townsend, El Tel and the rest of the ITV muppets.

I'm not bothered who presents football, since I rarely listen to what they have to say.

Still, PC gone mad innit. Next they'll be having women reading the news?


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Why not just ban this drug? There are plenty of better drugs available, including 'alternative' painkillers that do not kill you.

If 'even small amounts' can kill you, then obviously any amount will cause some toxicity in the body and to the liver.

- John, Ronda, Spain


ban paracetamol? nanny state! :P

it's stupid to ban it anyway, cos some people can't take other painkillers (e.g. people with stomach ulcers can't take aspirin) so paracetamol should be available for them. people can hang themselves with rope or crash their cars to kill themselves, does that mean we should ban rope and cars?

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