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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:17 am 
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Indeed. But there has been an idealised or preferred family type. That's what is slipping away, and I don't think the Right can do much to prevent it.


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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If you look at society reflected through literature (a good yardstick) throughout the nineteenth century you actually find that the 'idealised' families are departed from on a very regular basis, from Austen to Hardy. And often in an affectionate way (OK, not Hardy for that bit). Look at Diary of a Nobody, or Jerome K Jerome. You can't take an idealisation as truth, surely? It exists separately within a constructed paradigm of symbolic understanding.


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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A lot of people don't read the book, they just watch the TV adaptation (so to speak) and even then concentrate more on the pretty costumes and Colin Firth staggering out of the pond more than the rather uncomfortable reality depicted.

In Pride and Prejudice, a family is auctioning off its daughters in order to stay afloat.

In Nicholas Nickleby (and this was the one that always shocked me when I realised the implications back in my GCSE days) a school acts as a death camp for unwanted children. And the villain pimps out his niece more out of shits and giggles than anything else.

As for Hardy...best not even go there. But this goes over the heads of so many, and all we get fed back is 'wonderful stories so romantic, lovely dresses'.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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I was fondled by creepy masseurs – and let them get away with it. As a celebrity masseur is cleared of sexual assault, Amanda Platell tells her own troubling story

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I don't get all the fuss about massage. It doesn't do any more to relax tension than exercise or just a good plain old night's sleep. And what is an 'upper' chest massage or an inner thigh massage? Most tension emanates from back or neck muscles so why would you need a man, or woman even, to give you a massage there - doesn't make sense! I reckon if you're an 'executive' or a woman with a busy lifestyle then it maybe massage is a 'designer' must-have along with the rest.
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What's her name again? Amanda Prattle...yeah that would be about right.
- Will.i.aint, Home, home on the range, where people spell their names correctly, 21/6/2012 17:50
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If he has pushed the boundaries just a little and you go back to him, what exactly is he supposed to think? You're a mature woman not a frightened little girl.
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Is Amanda positive she isn't just putting a certain spin on this because it's been a slow day for news? She is afterall an ex spin-doctor for slimey politicians.
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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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I'm liking the accompany picture.

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I don't know about Mark Large I think it should say 'Mark Extra Large.'

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:40 pm 
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will.i.aint? Come on tom_uk, own up.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:00 pm 
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I worry the Middletons really do believe they are royalty

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... yalty.html


Awful & mean piece.... she is getting an absolute kicking in the comments. Totally misjudged her readership.


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Pippa and her brother were invited to sit in the Royal Box, what were they going to say... no?

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Don't worry about the Middletons. They probably don't worry about you thinking you are a real journalist.

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What a nasty, snide bit of "non-journalism".

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Build them up then chop them down! Such a boring routine by the press.

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You the journalist are a very sad person indeed! Get a life!

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:35 pm 
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From the sound of the title, that article wrote itself.

Haven't the Middletons had a good go at the tabloids for intrusion? Glad that the Mail has been brave enough to ignore the chilling effect of Leveson on their freedom.


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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Remind me. Which tabloid kept referring to Pippa's arse as "Her Royal Hotness"?

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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No Tulisa, this WASN'T a victory for girl power

More victim-blaming, anti-woman crap.

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When Tulisa appeared on the steps of the Royal Courts of Justice wearing a megawatt smile and a minuscule pair of shorts, it was — she assured us — to celebrate the ultimate victory for girl power.

Perhaps she ought to have worn a girdle. And is that really what she assured us?

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Hand on hip and with newly-dyed blonde hair, Tulisa’s advice to young girls who might find themselves in her position was: ‘Take it and use it as an experience to make you stronger, and don’t let anyone ruin you as a person inside.’ In other words, don’t get mad, get even.

It wasn't "don't get made, get even". It was: don't let yourself be shamed into silence. That's far from "the ultimate victory" — it doesn't change the fact that the tape was made public.

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Well, how about ‘don’t do it at all’?

Note: this is not addressed to the ex-boyfriend. But as we all know, it's naïve to expect a man to respect his girlfriend or ask for her consent. It's naïve to argue that other men should refuse to watch the tape on the basis that it is stolen property. It's not men's fault, they can't help it: [insert some bollocks about being 'hard-wired' here]. A woman is responsible for protecting herself from shame, and if that means forgoing the thrill of exhibitionism, the pleasure of any kind of non-procreative sex, then that's a price worth paying. This is old-fashioned puritanism.

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For what has never been in doubt is that Tulisa agreed to be filmed in a pornographic style in the first place. While that in no way excuses the disgusting and reprehensible way her boyfriend exploited the results, it does, alas, make her naive and foolish in the extreme.

Hundreds of thousands of couples get a kick out of filming themselves having sex "in a pornographic style". (What the fuck does that mean? Shit background music? Dialogue in Swedish?)

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What a golden opportunity it would have been, therefore, for the star to send a strong message to young girls everywhere that in our digital world, it is reckless and dangerous to allow yourself to be filmed by a boyfriend in any kind of intimate pose.

See, Platell is an equal opportunity pessimist. She thinks as little of men as she does of women. Men don't want real intimacy, they just want to fuck us over. Don't expect them to keep their word or give too much credence to the idea of consent. Men are incapable of behaving responsibly, so let's not even try to get them to do so. All that's left for us is to keep our legs closed:

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Isn’t that the true lesson of this case?

Instead of claiming it as a victory for girl power, Tulisa could have empowered girls to do the one thing that will protect them from such appalling exploitation. To just say no.

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And most humiliated girls don’t have Tulisa’s wealth to take a low-life boyfriend to court, nor a PR team to help clean up her image.

So a woman who has oral sex is dirty? Being seen to have sex is "humiliating"? Some fine slut-shaming there.

The cunts in this case are the ex-boyfriend, plus anyone who watched the video knowing that Tulisa hadn't consented to its being made public. They're the only ones who should be ashamed.


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:51 pm 
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She claims that the real message Tulisa should have been trying to teach young girls (why is that her responsibility anyway?) is that with digital technology and the internet they should be more carefull what they do and who they do it with.

Well personaly I'd say the theft, distribution, embarrassment, legal costs and media gossip surrounding this tape is going to be lesson enough for many young X Factor watching girls.
No doubt plenty will have learned something from it, I'm sure there are many who would think twice now before doing the same thing now they have seen what can happen.

This clearly has not occoured to Platell.

Her attitude and choice of words in this piece of crap speak of a woman who is deeply unsatisfied herself, just not getting any more, or feels too guilty and dirty to pursue her own sexual desires and therefor resents any woman who does.

Classic signs.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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That or the batteries in her well-used electric toothbrush have finally given up and she's got nothing to clean her cobwebs away, the ratty-faced old bitch that she is. Or, as my mother calls her, "one of the most grotesque reasons alive as to why some women should be shot in the face with a porcupine".

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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An article on the Tomlinson family in the Guardian includes this:

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One of the most hurtful and unjustifiable characterisations of the family came from the columnist Amanda Platell, who just 10 days after his death said Tomlinson's alcoholism and homelessness "must lead one to question the depth of [the family's] grief". Instead, she suggested the family were seeking "15 minutes of fame" and "a small fortune in compensation".

Three years later, the family have received no financial compensation. They have also remained dignified and resolute in their refusal of dozens of financial offers to sell their story to the media.


Her 2009 column is here, if you can stand it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169168/AMANDA-PLATELL-A-disturbing-death-tawdry-lust-fame-.html


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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This week it's Amanda Holden's turn to get a kicking from Platell. Apparently Platell believes that the musical Jesus Christ Super Star trivialises the Christian religion. And just to prove her point she comes out with this gem of a quote.

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z21CxvTO00

I must admit I've never seen the musical but judging by how many people went to see it when it was originally staged in the West End it clearly appealed to a very wide audience. Far from trivialising Christianity I think ITV have been quite brave to put on such a show during peak times in their schedule.

Platell also seems to be under the impression that the law on Gay marriages has already been passed after being pushed through the commons. I think she will find that the government is still consulting on the proposals but why lets the facts get in the way of a good rant.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Amanda Platell
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You can be sure that TV bosses would never have approved a reality show that so debased the Islamic prophet Muhammad — or the leading figure from any other religion


FFS, even people back in the seventies (when the show as first staged) were more rational than Platell is today.

Does she actualy think this is a new show? Does she not know that it's been around for years, that it's a bit late to get pissy about it now?

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