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Funny, I'm well inside the decimalisation timeframe, but I was taught 'em to twelve too, possibly the 13 and 14 as well.

You are correct. The sevens were proper bastards.
how so .... it's not as if they are any different to any of the others and if you find it too much then remember it's your 10 times table less your three times table and you admit both of those are easy.

Personally I'd go back to the days when we culled those who didn't know what 7x8 was without hesitation.


I'd be dead then :(


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Personally I'd go back to the days when we culled those who didn't know what 7x8 was without hesitation.


What days were they then?


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Personally I'd go back to the days when we culled those who didn't know what 7x8 was without hesitation.


What days were they then?


Imaginary days in some sort of parallel universe where the country is ruled by particulaly violent maths geeks?


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Personally I'd go back to the days when we culled those who didn't know what 7x8 was without hesitation.


What days were they then?


11+, i think. Though with Baht At you never know whether it's a glib exaggeration or a good, old-fashioned troll.


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Funny, I'm well inside the decimalisation timeframe, but I was taught 'em to twelve too, possibly the 13 and 14 as well.

You are correct. The sevens were proper bastards.
how so .... it's not as if they are any different to any of the others and if you find it too much then remember it's your 10 times table less your three times table and you admit both of those are easy.

Personally I'd go back to the days when we culled those who didn't know what 7x8 was without hesitation.


I'd be dead then :(
Or doing woodwork and metalcraft at a Secondary Modern rather than cluttering up universities. :wink:


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I've spent a considerable bity of time this week helping MissusMuncher mark maths exams for her new first year classes, for assessment and streaming.

Far be it from me to say it, but if such a cull were instigated in the area she worked, I'd go into business making small-size coffins, because I'd make a mint.


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The main reason is they don't teach the tricks (like the technique I mentioned above - change it to an easier question) of course you need an even better organised mind to use the tricks than learn by rote so I guess there would still be plenty of culled individuals.


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Nah. All the tricks in the world wouldn't help these lads, sadly. Whilst a good slice of them are decent, pleasant wee lads with reasonable skills, so many of them have been utterly failed by their primary education that I really doubt the situation is easily repairable.

I mean, we're talking about a school with lads of 15 and 16 who can't tell the time from an analogue clock.


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Here's the latest instalment of the listfrom the gold plated twat that is Quentin Letts.

Obviously it's chock full of Labour politicians and other public sector figures that the Mail has declared fatwa on down the years.

Letts gets tough when he describes Tony Blair as a 'selfish w*****'. Ooh 'eck!


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I chuckled at the inclusion of Richard Dawkins.


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'28 Helen Willetts
Helen Willetts

It is naive to believe that weather forecasters are there simply to predict the following day's climatic conditions in as quick and clear a way as possible.

Forecasters have become some of the most familiar faces and voices in national life.

They have become celebrities and entertainers, but most of all symbols of what society - or its string pullers in the metropolis - accepts as the ruling average. Culturally, this makes them powerful.

However, where we once had Fish, Kettley and stick-on cloud symbols, the BBC has now inserted a cadre of pushy modernisers - many of them northern-accented show-offs who speak to the viewers as though they were sub-teen morons.

The queen bee of the lot is a geeky-smiled creature called Helen Willetts, who parades her Chester accent with care and frowns at the tragedy of it all if she has to suggest rain is on the horizon.

Sunshine is greeted as a marvel. Come snow showers, she practically says 'brrrrr' and shivers her shoulders before telling viewers that 'it could be cold today, so do wrap up'.

Wrap up? Yes, why don't you, Helen?

Willetts is not the only one. There's Newcastle-born Sarah Wilmshurst, gulpy and cloying, inclining her head in sorrow when she has to report a possible drop in the mercury.

There's wide-eyed, camp-as-a-daisy Daniel Corbett, clapping his hands together with cruise-ship entertainer relish at the prospect of an incoming front of high pressure.

And then there's Alex Deakin, who has the utterly infuriating habit of closing each broadcast with an over-matey, 'and that's yer weather'. Yer?

Yeurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!'

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I won't hear a bad word said about Daniel Corbett! I usually couldn't care less about the weather, but I'll pay attention if he's doing it.

His problem is that they haven't got soulless generic accents, isn't it?


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What a sad, bitter chap he is :roll: theres so much shit in there its difficult to seperate the wood for the trees;

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26 The Very Rev. Ronald Jasper
The turbulent Jasper, Dean of York from 1975-84, was the man who more than any other liturgical scholar was responsible for the erosion of the finest expression of religion in the English language, the Book of Common Prayer.
Change, change, change, that was Jasper's goal - and finally he got his way.

At his urging the Church produced the Alternative Service Book, the dreaded ASB, unrhythmic, babyish, its prose as tinny as a can of beans.
No wonder our churches are nowadays so much more empty. Jasper caused this, the bloody fool


This is a favorite moan of fellow change hater Hitchens :roll: . If you actually bothered to read the Bible Quentin (or even go to one of these hideous 'modern' churches) you will find that the whole message of Jesus was to spread the word of God to everyone, not just the well educated and the chattering classes. It was the scribes (people like you it would appear) that wanted to keep the language complexed so that they could preach their own interpretation without someone in the crowd going 'hang on, thats not what it says here'!

The reason church numbers are dropping is due to the simple fact old folk are dying and there arn't enough young people joining up to replace them. Why? Because the church hasn't modernised ENOUGH!

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However, where we once had Fish, Kettley and stick-on cloud symbols, the BBC has now inserted a cadre of pushy modernisers - many of them northern-accented show-offs who speak to the viewers as though they were sub-teen morons.


Oh just fuck off! :x

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No amount of superior lecturing from an anti-Christ, not even one with so important a title as his, will alter that.


OK, Dawkins may be a bit of a pretentious arse, but critisising the dogmatic following of religion which has catalysed so much bloodshed for centuries hardly makes him the devil.

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The same Anon is now the most prolific poster of pro-Government comments on political activists' websites.
Anon is always first to defend films or theatre productions which have been pooh-poohed by the named mainstream critics.
Anon tends to ascribe the worst motives to those professional critics, always doubting their independence of mind, often seeing conspiracies.
Anon is a bully - but a coward. Anon shelters behind the shield. Anon, though happy to attack, is not prepared to defend.


Maybe he/she should work for the Mail then?

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Brunstrom has said he is 'proud' of his 'obsession' with speeding motorists. Twenty-four hours a day he will chase them, seven days a week.


A cop whos obsessed with catching criminals?? Whatever next!

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Baker was responsible for two ill-considered changes to our law: the Dangerous Dogs Act of 1991 and, five years earlier, the abolition of corporal punishment in England's state schools.
So: unpleasant dogs could be exterminated. Whole breeds were condemned with one sweep of his ministerial nib.
'Zero tolerance', not then much used as an expression, had to be shown to canines with an imperfect grasp of discipline.
But dangerous youths? Vicious children? Out-of-control schoolboys?
They could under no circumstances be caned or birched or hit on the knuckles, even if they were terrorising their classmates and persecuting their teachers.


We should have every right to beatup kids and keep dangerous dogs??

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Repeatedly, he has been open to accusations of favouring Labour MPs (particularly Scottish men) over Conservatives (particularly those with fruity Southern accents).
He has more than once lost his temper, jabbing a finger and spitting fury at an aristocratic Tory. He has been a clumsy class warrior - a figure of lamentable comedy.
With this gallumphing idiot in charge, is it any wonder the House of Commons is regarded as a joke?



What a sad, pathetic & racist loser - Thats you Quentin


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Killer Whale wrote:
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Personally I'd go back to the days when we culled those who didn't know what 7x8 was without hesitation.


What days were they then?


11+, i think. Though with Baht At you never know whether it's a glib exaggeration or a good, old-fashioned troll.


I don't think it was just your mathematical ability they tested. I believe reading and writing were also considered quite important...


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office_tramp wrote:
Killer Whale wrote:
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Disgusting Liberal wrote:
Personally I'd go back to the days when we culled those who didn't know what 7x8 was without hesitation.


What days were they then?


11+, i think. Though with Baht At you never know whether it's a glib exaggeration or a good, old-fashioned troll.


I don't think it was just your mathematical ability they tested. I believe reading and writing were also considered quite important...


Well if it is the 11+ he can keep it. A totally unjust piece of shit that for generations divided people at the age of 11 into those who would be the nicely and expensively educated middle class and the proles who would spend the next few years in an educational ghetto and then be pushed out to find jobs suitable for their station. Gah.


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