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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:10 am 
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However, the planning system in its current form is entirely capable of allowing for this to happen, and no relaxation of planning rules are needed.




Interesting points, but if the planning system is already allowing town centres to constantly regenerate themselves, why isn't it happening?

I think vacant units are part of a long term trend that was well underway before the recession even began, partly due to the internet and also competition from out of town shopping centres which people seem to prefer. If town centres are opened up to more housing (and reusing existing structures is far better environmentally than building new ones from scratch on the edge of town meaning increased traffic) it permits the remaining businesses have more customers on their doorsteps which surely has to be a good thing all round.

Already covered to some extent, but the key point is that what you need is a mechanism by which to judge whether the conversion of a shop to a house is a beneficial use of a unit that would otherwise be vacant, or just a short-term fix (causing long-term issues) for a unit that can reasonably be expected to have a future as a shop unit. That mechanism is the planning system. Vacant units were already a long-term trend in some areas, but not in others. Again, that judgement needs to be made at some point.

In terms of bringing residents into a centre, well, yes, that can have a positive effect. But, the positive effects of one shop vs the positive effects of one house in terms of trade/footfall is no comparison really. Once again, the critical thing is to judge whether the unit genuinely has a reasonable prospect of a future as a shop/local service.

As to why it isn't happening now - very little is happening now, whether it be retail development, housing development or anything else. That's not the fault of planning (despite desperate Government efforts to portray it as such.

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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Plus there are also a large number of unoccupied houses in the UK already, renevating these properties and making them availible to new buyers (not just the already well off landlord to buy up and live of the rent), would be a much better idea as opposed to taking possible future retail units off the market for decades.

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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Put a stop to Leftie bias, restore religion, and bring back culture! QUENTIN LETTS throws his hat into the ring for the top job at the BBC

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z1l1D7loqo

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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To save you from reading Quentin's bilge, in summary, he wants to turn the clock back about 50 years as far as the BBC is concerned.

Don't call, us, Mr Letts.......

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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This is all absolute nonsense! The trouble with the Brits is that they don't know what gems they've got! The Beeb is recognized as one of the finest broadcasing organisations in the world, and most other nations would just love to grab it if it were on offer! Every time a hint of change in the World Service is mooted, hundreds of pleas and entreaties pour in from around the world at the suggested loss of a universally admired AND trusted service! Most thinking people would pay the Licence fee just to listen to Radio 4 alone, let alone all the vast, additional TV and Radio output on offer. The programmes it makes are in demand, and sold for millions all around the world, and many other broadcasters pay fees to make their own versions of Beeb shows and formats! The downside, as we know is that like any public body, the employees are unjustifiably overpaid and cossetted, and the Beeb's reporting is, as acknowledged by them, not attaining the level of impartiality expected-yet?
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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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That cannot possibly be the real John Smith. The giveaway is that it's far too articulate.

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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It's almost fractally stupid, this piece. It has absolutely no internal consistency whatsoever. Letts wouldn't know a reasoned argument if it lopped his cock off with a rusty billhook...

Anyway, though: Isn't this kind of typical of a mindset prevalent amongst Mail writers and the dregs of the readership? They haven't grasped the notion of something being for everyone yet, and aren't entirely aware (or simply don't care) that paying taxes/road tax/TV Licence does not mean those services should be instantly tailored to them. It's like their empathy was removed in the operation to pucker their mouth like a duck's arse is deep water. Either complete absence of the idea that other people, other tastes, other opinions exist, or a deeply umpleasant reaction to the existence of such a thing. It's almost sociopathic.

Letts' imbecilic rant has all the usual hallmarks of this: Stop broadcasts when I don't watch the telly. Stop showing programming I don't like. Make programmes I do like. My aesthetic preferences are equivalent to moral rectitude and intelligence, thankyouverymuch. And if people don't like it, too bad. I'm more important and smarterer than they are. If he hasn't already published them, and I think he may have done, he almost certainly has columns in the locker for the NHS, the Road Traffic Laws and the Criminal Justice system.

With that in mind, it's more galling that it's probably taken me more effort to articulate my displeasure (poorly) than it did for Letts to regurgitate "I'm fucking right, and I'm fucking entitled" for the billionth fucking time. Which in turn, makes me a little sorry to have bothered my arse.


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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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Not too proud to take the Beeb's shilling for this crap performance, though...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16211155


..now that was a waste of license payer's money. Any comment, Quentin?

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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It's time to shut down this factory of meddling and nincompoopery

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z1oKw28skR

No, Quentin hasn't seen the light and realised just how shite the Mail is; it's the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) he's moaning about:
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Confronted by that jumble of letters, EHRC, your eyes perhaps glaze. The same letters, in a slightly different order, stand for the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR). Confusion is to be sympathised with, for both organisations are remote organs of the anti-democratic Left.


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It's time to shut down this factory of meddling and nincompoopery

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z1oKw28skR

No, Quentin hasn't seen the light and realised just how shite the Mail is; it's the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) he's moaning about:
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Confronted by that jumble of letters, EHRC, your eyes perhaps glaze. The same letters, in a slightly different order, stand for the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR). Confusion is to be sympathised with, for both organisations are remote organs of the anti-democratic Left.
Some letters in one order mean wone thing and some letters in another order mean another thing? Well, fuck me, it's reading insights like that which make it clear to me how this guy keeps his job as a columist.


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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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Even if I didn't know who he was, his use of the word nincompoopery would still be enough to make me want to punch the pompous git.

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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I know this doesn't particularly count, but he's on This Week tonight and a minute in and I want to punch him in his smug face.

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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Althea wrote:
I know this doesn't particularly count, but he's on This Week tonight and a minute in and I want to punch him in his smug face.

It's a sanity check, if that feeling takes more than a minute to kick in you need to seek professional help ASAP.

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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I know this doesn't particularly count, but he's on This Week tonight and a minute in and I want to punch him in his smug face.


Thanks for the heads up, looks like it's Top Gear and Luxury Comedy downloads for me tonight.

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 Post subject: Re: Quentin Letts
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Althea wrote:
I know this doesn't particularly count, but he's on This Week tonight and a minute in and I want to punch him in his smug face.


I turned it over when I saw he was on, but actually I want to punch just about everyone on This Week. It's an absolute car crash in which people paid to talk about politics inist on trying to be funny, invariably failing.

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