A girl bullied for being raped and the cowardice of cyber trolls


Seriously? Moir is going to make this about her?

There are two separate issues here. Moir is conflating them to make herself into a martyr. One is the experience of online bullying, which is always awful and traumatic. The other is the cause of that bullying.

Moir wrote a column in a national newspaper that was (sorry Jan) inexcusably, repulsively homophobic. It was a form of bullying itself, and she was paid for it. If she'd retracted the story, what message would it have sent out? That power should be used responsibly?

This 13-year-old girl, on the other hand, had been raped, and dared to report it to the police. If she'd given into the bullying, she'd have had to go about her life aware not just that the bullies were still on her case, but that her rapist was too. And when the rapist struck again (he's a repeat offender) it would be her fault. Try living with that, Jan Moir.

I'm not clicking on it either. I wasted an afternoon last time replying to the likes of "my nephew paid his way through college by working at ASDA"

A grown woman getting called an evil hag online after writing a disgraceful column she was paid well for. A young girl getting called a slag in person after being rape. What's the difference?

I do hope the comments give her the ripping apart she so richly deserves for making such a crass comparison.

With any luck it will blow up in her face like the Gately story, and with the spotlight of the Levenson inquiry currently falling on the mail hopefully a bit of damage limitation sacking will ensue.

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"Now get those trousers off before someone dies!"

How dumb do you have to be bring up that hit job on Steven Gately and try to make you where the victim?

She should have been sacked for that.

GPs visited at night. Nurses knew your name. Is this why a series about Fifties midwives has struck such a nerve?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... z1n02LC5Zv

What profoundly dishonest article.

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I'm a nasty, violent lefty. You cunt.

No, it's because it's "Good Old Days" television, it doesn't need to be grounded in any sort of reality or reflect real nursing life during the fifties - it just needs to give the impression that it does and the viewer to whom this type of thing appeals does all the work.

Frankly, I'm sick of all these damn period dramas, and there are even more coming up over the course of the year.

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"Now get those trousers off before someone dies!"

I enjoyed Call the midwife, but not for the reasons Moir describes. It's presented rather gently, but the series didn't shy away from depicting the isolation of some women in the supposedly community-oriented east end, the harsh treatment of deviants such as prostitutes and single mothers, and the generally grim outlook for poor women. The most rose-tinted aspect is probably the solidarity and dedication of the midwives, but even that makes a change from teams of hard-boiled cops wisecracking over atrocious crime scenes.

Maybe I've been lucky but I've never come across a doctor or nurse who didn't do their best, or who didn't care. Next time Jan Moir's ill I hope she gets some of that lovely fifties treatment, with a 'caring' doctor dispensing inadequate medication.

As I believe I have said before: in my experience what you get from the NHS, as with most other things, has a lot to do with how you treat its staff. If you treat them with common courtesy and a bit of understanding that there may be others whose need at that particular moment is greater than yours but that your turn will come, and that the staff are human beings, you will be treated with the utmost care and kindness in most instances. Oh wait a minute, that sounds like filthy socialist talk. On your knees, slaves. You're paid to treat me as a god.

You have it nailed.

All this stuff about no home visits and they knew your name - I have had the same GP for 26 years (she has gone from trainee to head of the practice) and she calls me, and my entire family, by our first names, and always asks after my children on the rare occasions I see her. And if you need a home visit you will get one; ie if you are too ill to go to the GP clinic at the nearest A+E, or if you really have no way of getting there, or even if you have several ill children at the same time. The out-of-hours service has dedicated, liveried cars with drivers to take GPs on home visits and you see them around all the time. You do where i live, anyway. And i would far rather get seen quickly in a well-equipped surgery at the A+E clinic, where the GP on duty can see a lot more patients than if s/he was doing home visits, than have to wait hours at home. Maybe the Blessed Eck Salmond has it nailed and Call Me Dave hasn't, but I do not believe that the whole of England and Wales is a desert of uncaring evil medical staff who can't speak English and laugh in the faces of the suffering middle class.

It isn't. My GP - with whom I have had a lot of contact in the last few years - is a great doctor, humorous, intelligent, detail-oriented and compassionate. Also tough when necessary.
I've had one 'bad' GP in recent years - quite easy to just go and find a better one.

So why is it an article of faith with Mailites that it is? Is it that what they read in their comic takes precedence in their minds over what actually happens to them? Or are they, to a man/woman, so vile to their doctors etc that they really do get short shrift? It must be coming from SOMEWHERE.