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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:39 am 
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Stuck in their starter homes
It's the middle-class dream - buy a small house and move up the property ladder as your family grows. But now more and more couples are finding the bigger house they'd hoped to graduate to seems nothing more than a pipe dream
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... homes.html

People Like Us, yesterday:
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Their 'starter home', yesterday:
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‘Earlier this year, we decided to look for somewhere bigger, but our mortgage company said our home was now only worth £359,000.’


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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:54 am 
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That violin seems oversized, given that the sadface woman runs a tanning studio for a living, and the other one is a Mirror hack responsible for quality journalism such as 'My daughter was killed by a candle' and 'Me and Jade Goody share so much … our age, our beautiful boys and a cancer that's killing us'.

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Oh, stop whingeing! My grandmother brought up 10 children in a little terraced, back to back house (coronation street style) very successfully! What's YOUR problem? ......... I want, I want, I want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just get on with it - there are a lot of people who'd give the world for your children and the life you have. Count your blessings instead of moaning!

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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:16 am 
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The very concept of the 'housing ladder' is one of the reasons the economy crashed. Are these people living in a parallel universe?


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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:55 am 
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That's a starter home? In what universe? I probably earn at least what they do and will still be lucky to ever live in a place that size.

Boo hoo, they can't have a third child and visiting relatives have to sleep on the sofa. My heart bleeds. If they bought at the height of the bubble (2007 according the story) what did they expect?


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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:53 pm 
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Both times I bought a starter home, they were two up, two down!


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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:02 pm 
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Two families wailing over how little their houses now cost compared to their value in 2007.

How much less would they get for them if they sold now, compared to what they spent? Ten thousand? Fifteen?
Nope, two. Two grand less.
There are people trying to sell their cars for extra cash who dream of such low depreciation over four years, yet these people think they are getting a bum deal because their houses are worth two grand less?

Where is the bloddy story here? "We WANT more bedrooms, we WANT more children, we WANT WANT WANT" oh do SHUT UP!
You have a house, you have children, you have eachother. If these things aren't enough for you then what do you think that says about you? A lot more than it says about the housing market, that's for sure.

Even then, some of their biggest gripes are about the estate agent's and solicitor's fees - neither of which have anything to do with the value if their houses as they'd have to pay these fees anyway (unless they sold privately, but I suppose that didn't occur to them).

As usual, those who have the most to be grateful for are often the least grateful.

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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
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Typical Mailite attitude. "I want everything but I shouldn't have to pay or suffer for any of it, only the bare minimum which I can then use as a badge of honour to beat someone else with (e.g. a hard days work)."

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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:14 pm 
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My house is a house. It is not a 'property'. It's not a speculative investment or a 'rung' on some aspirational ladder constructed by financiers keen for me to buy into the 'middle class dream'. I love my (2 bedroom) house: that's why I chose it. it gives me great pleasure to live in it. Why have so many people chosen to see houses as more as punctuation in their lives and as social indicators of status rather than as homes?

- Alan, Well, 24/11/2011 13:32


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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:20 pm 
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Yes, but that's why the DM prints this bollocks - not because they actually sympathise with beauticians who wail about wanting what they can't afford, but to give their core readership, which is a lot older than that and probably doesn't own a £300k house in the Home Counties, the chance to be unpleasant and smug. The fact that the beauticians etc *are* being pains in the arse to anyone with half a grain of intelligence is neither here nor there. It's all about making people who haven't actually got much status, intelligence, power or money feel superior to people who on paper might be considered better/richer/of higher social status than they are.


That said, why can't you have more than 2 children if you live in a 3 bedroom house? That one escapes me.


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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:45 pm 
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Yes, but that's why the DM prints this bollocks - not because they actually sympathise with beauticians who wail about wanting what they can't afford, but to give their core readership, which is a lot older than that and probably doesn't own a £300k house in the Home Counties, the chance to be unpleasant and smug. The fact that the beauticians etc *are* being pains in the arse to anyone with half a grain of intelligence is neither here nor there. It's all about making people who haven't actually got much status, intelligence, power or money feel superior to people who on paper might be considered better/richer/of higher social status than they are.


That said, why can't you have more than 2 children if you live in a 3 bedroom house? That one escapes me.

Don't be silly, how on earth would you coordinate the interior design?

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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:28 pm 
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Don't you know? Each child is a unique little snowflake who must have their own room so they can express their own individual personalities...once they're old enough that is, until then each room will be decorated as mummy sees fit and in a way that she thinks best exspresses how clever and perfect her little darlings are.

Never mind the vast number of people who grew up sharing a room with at least one other sibling and turned out perfectly fine, I suppose they were poor and intellectualy stifled by their standards.

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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
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Sharing a bedroom with a sibling does a lot for your diplomatic skills. Or your prowess at bare-knuckle fighting.


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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
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Not to mention wanking motionlessly whilst holding your breath

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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Skills these little poppets wil never have the advantage of learning.

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 Post subject: Re: More "middle-class" bollocks
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Timbo wrote:
Not to mention wanking motionlessly whilst holding your breath


Surely the children of DM readers are still put to bed with boxing gloves on?*



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