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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:22 am 
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Ha ha contribution to society, where?

Well, writing as the person who was the subject of the original dig, this week after working a number of 14 hour days, amongst other things I got the right educational and medical provision for a couple of children with severe and deteriorating epilepsy in circumstances where, if it hadn't happened, the father was likely to have a breakdown, the mother was on her knees with exhaustion and stress, and there was a serious danger of the family unit totally breaking down and the kids going into care. Excuse me if I took a bit of light relief from all of that by participating on this site.

But of course Littlejohn's column was much more significant and much harder work.


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:09 am 
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a bit of balance wrote:
Ha ha contribution to society, where?


Ah, the good old "you're just a nerd in their bedroom who does nothing" gambit. I have a job, I pay taxes, and I make an effort to stop organisations like the Mail spreading hateful bullshit. Last year I raised £1000 for charity. But of course you knew at least some of that because you know full well that people don't literally sit for their entire day on this forum or posting comments to the Mail site. Of course you like to frame it like we do in an effort to make us look bad to each other (which is stupid, because we're all aware of reality) and to lurkers (which is pointless, because if they're Mail lovers like Guardy they'll believe whatever they want regardless anyway and if they're normal folk they'll have almost certainly have seen the exact same troll tactics before and be able to spot them for what they are) and of course to try and make us feel embarrassed so we stop posting and/or start infighting, which is the holy grail of trolling.

Seriously, can we skip ahead to the bit where you either flounce off in a big self-important huff saying you'll never come back because of censorship only to come back 2 weeks later under a new name and start again, or you start making thinly-veiled personal threats to try and scare us into not posting because you're getting so angry that your use of basic troll tactics isn't working you can't help yourself? At least it'll save some time, and with the former might give us a couple of weeks of peace and quiet from your achingly tiresome, toothless, seen-it-all-before efforts.

Worst. Troll. Ever. Are you actually Littlejohn? It'd explain why your arguments are all shit, why you're so ridiculously hypocritical, and why you're so fucking lazy you think doing the exact same thing every troll since Tim Berners-Lee flipped the "on" switch on the internet has done will somehow work for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:27 am 
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I must have missed our starting a crusade against the Mail. When were we absorbed by Northern & Shell?

Clearly Bitty you need to read the disclaimer on the front page...

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:33 am 
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I would imagine that Bit O's idea of contributing to society is a socially useless job followed by tax avoidance, so I wouldn't worry too much.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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I must have missed our starting a crusade against the Mail. When were we absorbed by Northern & Shell?

Clearly Bitty you need to read the disclaimer on the front page...


Quite - I don't think any of us believe we're going to bring down the Mail with our occasional digs on here. But it is nice to know that you're not the only one who despairs of the Mail's view of the world and its negative impact on British society...


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:39 am 
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Like the rest of the Right Minds brigade Littlejohn has decided to bash the poor.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2090780/UK-welfare-reform-At-rate-selling-The-Big-Issue.html

So a bloke who earns a million a year and spends most of the year in America believes he's qualified to comment on how the benefit system in this country works.

He does venture into the world of football but fails to mention that Harry Rednapp is currently in court on tax evasion charges.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:49 am 
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Old Wob's post has been hacked, sliced n diced by the online Dacre meat cleaver! Compare
the published version with the original version to see what caused such offence:

http://bobwinstonroberts.blogspot.com/

They don't like it up em I say!


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:04 pm 
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Spot on yet again Mr Littlejohn, I look forward to reading your articles twice a week and once again you have managed to produce another media museum piece

- Anne, West Midlands EU, 24/1/2012 13:35
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Spot on yet again Mr Littlejohn, I look forward to reading your articles twice a week and once again you have managed to produce another media museum piece, laced with prejudice and full of distortions. Your sad band of reactionary commenters will love you for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:40 pm 
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The funny (?) thing about RL is that over time he really does seem to have changed for the worse.

My first exposure to him was back in 1991 - my parents got the Times, my grandparents the Sun. Visiting them, I read an article he did (it was at the time of the abortive anti-Gorbachev coup) wherein he parodied communism with a pastiche of the Dead Parrot sketch ("This policy is dead, bereft of life..."). Hardly original, but at least it took a fairly big and impersonal and easy topical target, and made some populist digs at it. Hardly daring, but did its job.

Around this time, he was invited onto shows such as HIGNFY and Fantasy Football. He was generally seen as one of those generally likeable, spoke-his-mind, call a spade a spade hacks. So, what changed?

Well, first of all he moved to the Mail, and I do think that he got more bitter and angry since he moved there. Or at least his writing did. And it seems to have gotten worse over the years. He received a lot of justified stick for his comments on Rwanda, but he could have concievably defended himself by saying that in the grand scheme of things, the average person in Britain had more immediate and pressing concerns than the genocide. It was awful, but the danger of someone getting hacked to death with a machete on the streets of Chelmsford were pretty slim.

There's been some debate over whether he genuinely holds the opinions he writes, or simply writes to order. I think that perhaps the crucial point for him was that legendary Michael Winner moment. At that point, he was confronted by people he thought would lap his line up, and who rejected it. Not Winner, but the studio audience. After that, the double loathing - for not just his targets but for his audience as well - seems to have taken over.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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Spot on yet again Mr Littlejohn, I look forward to reading your articles twice a week and once again you have managed to produce another media museum piece

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Spot on yet again Mr Littlejohn, I look forward to reading your articles twice a week and once again you have managed to produce another media museum piece, laced with prejudice and full of distortions. Your sad band of reactionary commenters will love you for it.

When they did that to me once I used the complaint system to demand that they either display the original comment in full or remove it - I could see no reason why they should depict my comment as supporting Littledick when in fact it did the reverse. They duly removed it, which was fine by me.


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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He does venture into the world of football but fails to mention that Harry Rednapp is currently in court on tax evasion charges.


Tax evasion isn't a crime, it's what any sensible person would do. Claiming benefits that you're entitled to though - that's an affront to the decent tax avoider, I mean payer, and makes you scum.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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So where is the fat idle cunt this week. Needing more time off to recover from the stress of his job I suppose.


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:13 pm 
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Hey - give the poor wee shite a break. It's contributing to Society, after all.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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He's back today, though his short break hasn't led to any discernable improvement in his ability to write a topical piece on the week's news:

RBS: How to make a pig's ear out of a dog's breakfast

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z1l1Dneinu

This gives you due warning of what to expect if you decide to read it:
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Can you imagine leaving the rescue of RBS to the politicians, or any civil servant you care to name?

How about Gordon Brown, who sold off Britain’s gold reserves at car boot sale prices, spent our money like a drunken sailor on shore leave, presided over the collapse of RBS under his mate 'Sir' Fred Goodwin, and bequeathed the country a trillion-pound debt?

It does, however, include this classic first sentence:
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We've all got pictures which come back to haunt us.

I wonder if there are any photos of Ritchie which could come back to haunt him? :wink:


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