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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:50 am 
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Listen With Mother, pre-Thatcher British Steel and a call to return to the good old days of pounds, shillings and pence. Littlejohn used to be the clubhouse golf bore but now he is the senile old fart sitting in the corner burbling on about a ha'p'worth of gobstoppers and "when all this was fields".

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:09 am 
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What the hell was that all about? Seriously - that's not even dull by-the-numbers target stuff, just rambling.

Also, I suspect he wants to bring back shillings given he does most of his transactions in dollars so won't be affected. And a nice little aside that it used to help a mate of his avoid paying what he owed.


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:09 am 
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Really, let's not bring back Fahrenheit. On an everyday basis it doesn't really work apart from the press being able to use alarming numbers to describe high temperatures.

I liked this comment:

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For those of you who think we should turn the country into some sort of 1950's theme park, a few things you should remember about The Golden 50's. Polio epedemics, Teddy Boys, Razor Gangs, flick knives, the worst pop music , endless Westerns at the cinemas (if you could see them through the smoke), London Smog, nothing to do on Sundays, pubs with no carpets and no ice, virtually no foreign food, TV, including What's My Line, Hughie Green and The White Heather Club (don't ask). Politicians who said "Trust us we know what we are doing", floral frocks, blue and grey suits, check ones for spivs, all shops closed by 5:30 PM, proposing to year girlfriend in a Wimpy Bar or a Lyons Tea Shop, G Plan Furniture. summer holidays in a Clacton B & B or Butlin's for the middle classes. Doing the shopping every day, that is butcher's, baker's, dairy, greengrocer and fishmonger plus a mile bus ride. Snobbery, hypocrisy, class divide, busy bodies, gossip and that was just the people living next door
- Jim New, Lewisham, 17/2/2012 08:48
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He missed out racism and racial violence, women being expected to know their place and the fear of nuclear war but apart from that he seems to have most of it (I wasn't around in the 50s but parents and their friends have moaned about much of the above)


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:25 am 
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The trouble is he has just described paradise for many Mail-ites.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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Oooh, I went all wistful and misty-eyed when I saw the pic of a ten bob note. It brought back memories of opening birthday cards from aunts and brown ten shilling notes dropping onto your lap. Such riches! And the choices available! What would it be? An Airfix kit or a pack of 20 No. 6 and enough change left over for a visit to the cinema?


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:07 pm 
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Location: That fancy London, with it's book learning. Sadly not being anywhere else..
Indeed, those long bus rides into town every day to buy perishables kept the little lady too busy to worry about how dull or pointless her life had become.

In the old shopping centre in the nearest large town to where I live, they used to have a Help For Heroes type store.
This has since moved to a bigger unit, where it has become a shop on one side, with a 1940's style tea shop on the other.

Well, I say 1940's style, it isn't really. All they've done is pasted a whole wall with sepia toned photocopies of photos and articles depicting lovely old forties things, hung up some bunting and made the poor serving girls wear headscarves like the spunky young land girls in the photos on the wall.

It's the 40's equivalent of the "Irish" theme pub, in that it's about as accurate a replica of a real 1940's cafe as my toilet is an accurate replica of Cleopatra's bath house - but it works.

I've never seen it really busy (I doubt I will), but for a few people living in the past this sort of thing is right up their street, and for people looking for something to do with their elderly parents on the pension day out it will certainly fill an hour or two.

It creeps me out whenever I see it. It just seems like such a cynical means of extracting money from the bewildered and vunerable, by hitting them over the head with the idea that your life was so much better back in the good old days.

Never mind the war, the poverty, the inequality and the mind numbing boredom - weren't the cinema usherettes nicely turned out? And wasn't it nice to lean over the garden fence and rip seven verbal bells out of the new couple down the road because they still haven't gotten round to putting up their nets yet?

All tying in nicely with the war shop on the other side of course, which in it's own way is quite interesting.
Been so closely connected now to the cafe, it's almost as if it is the image of the WW2 faithfull tommy they want to conjure up to encourage you to spend. There certainly is an emphasis on the nostalgic type of war stock that you'd see in stores like Past Times.

Perhaps some customers aren't as enamoured of the modern army as they are of the peerless image of the perfect pre-21st Century soldier.

Honestly this cafe/shop makes me annoyed. I'd like to know if anyone else has seen these around and what they think.

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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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There was a "ye olde tea shop" down the road from me of that ilk. Thankfully, they thought - in a town brimming with lovely cafes and pubs - they could get away with selling shitty Mr. Kipling-grade naff cakes. So now they've closed down and in a few weeks a splendid new artisan bakery/cafe will open instead.


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The trouble is he has just described paradise for many Mail-ites.


Particularly this bit

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Jim New, Lewisham is often very good.


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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Given that Littlejohn doesn't appear to have been to University his little jibe at the end of his column seems to be a bit of an own goal.

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Looniversity
Some British universities are issuing a guide to foreign students on the correct way of using the toilet.
Sorry, but if they’re not bright enough to work out how to use the loo, what are they doing at university?


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 Post subject: Re: Richard Lidljohns Column
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Gold medal time to whoever sneaked in this gem:

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Pounds, shillings and pence. What memories! For next-to-nothing my friends and I would uniformly travel to a friendly European capital, see a really top-notch show with really charismatic characters, chat to like-minded locals and raise our arms a fair bit, if you know what I mean. Even in those days we all read the Mail.
- Hugh Rutherford-Black, S. Herts, 17/2/2012 13:01


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Very cunning!

I'm tempted to see how Sean Domnhall Beck goes down.

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If you are so keen with nostalga and the past, perhaps you would be prepared to be paid now what you were paid then, I doubt if your output has improved much.

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