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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:31 pm 
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so do i actually.


Except on Livejournal, where everyone is a girl until proven otherwise.


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:34 pm 
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ACG wrote:
so do i actually.


Except on Livejournal, where everyone is a girl until proven otherwise.



I sometimes pretend to be a girl when I'm online. I've often wondered what it would be like to be female...


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:28 am 
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Aah, the Internet. Where men are men, women are men and children are entrapment stings! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:15 pm 
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I sometimes pretend to be a girl when I'm online. I've often wondered what it would be like to be female...

I like to do that in front of a mirror whilst dancing to "Goodbye, Horses" by Q Lazzarus.
10 points for anyone who gets the reference :D

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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:34 pm 
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I got the reference.

It was that or getting the hose again...

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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:57 pm 
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Is it the killer chappie in "Silence of the Lambs" ?

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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:45 pm 
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Mailydail wrote:
For some odd reason, when I'm talking to people on the internet I always assume they are male.


And white of course. It's wrong to assume they are all wrist happy drug-addled adolescents though.


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:47 pm 
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Mailydail wrote:
For some odd reason, when I'm talking to people on the internet I always assume they are male.


And white of course. It's wrong to assume they are all wrist happy drug-addled adolescents though.


Some of us are all of those things.


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:51 am 
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Distinct lack of logic here. SM is trying to keep to the Mail's pro-Pope line while conveying her own secular sympathies, but gets into an awful tangle -

"Yet to treat all Catholics - many of whom are well aware of what is wrong with the church’s hierarchy - as bigoted morons strikes me as bigoted and moronic.
It is clear that Catholicism here is in decline. I am a humanist but feel what I have seen this weekend has been a group of men who think they know best sneering at people - often women - of faith and humility.

If you want to convert people to ‘reason’ away from ‘faith’, may I suggest a good start is to not merely insult them."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z0zyHCBjLC


So the logic goes:

1.I don't like the Pope's views on most things and I resent having to contribute to the cost of his visit.

2.But not all Catholics are like him.

3.Therefore atheists should suck it up when insulted by him and should not retaliate.

Surely 3 should read 'therefore he does not speak for all Catholics and should be ignored'? The problem, surely, is that he is the one doing the insulting? Obviously it would be better if those insulted didn't retaliate, since by doing so they come down to his level, but human nature being what it is few people will shut up when told they are bad people because they don't subscribe to the flying spaghetti monster stuff.

Incidentally - I have been truly gobsmacked at the fancy dress involved in this visit. Is it just my residual Presbyterian sympathies that makes me feel this is a bit indecent?


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:52 pm 
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Tch, split infinitives into the bargain.

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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
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My favourite yarn regarding ecclesiastical garb ends like this.

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No sir, I will not join you in this dance for 3 reasons.
You are drunk.
This is the Neruvian national anthem.
I am the Bishop of Lima.


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:24 pm 
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I am a humanist but feel what I have seen this weekend has been a group of men who think they know best sneering at people - often women - of faith and humility.


...what is she on about?

she is correct in observing that a lot (but not all, odd of a mail journo to pass up a toynbee knocking oppertunity) of the leading critics of the popes visit have been male, but who are this group of "often women" they've been "sneering at"?
is she just getting confused by all those dresses?

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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:31 pm 
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What she's saying is that a large group of Catholics comprises old ladies and young women with babies. The implication is, I think, that women are a bit less clever than men, since they accept what they are told about religion, while men aren't so devout. She doesn't like that, but feels constrained to point it out nonetheless.

And of course nuns - lots of them about. Not so many monks, at least as far as I've seen from TV coverage.


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:08 pm 
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She's leaving the Mail for Guardian, apparently. Should be an interesting change of direction, and proof of Armsteen's Law*
http://plixi.com/p/59504116


UPDATE: She is writing for the Groaniad but not leaving the Wail on Sundae! Further proof of Armsteen's Law.




*Journalists are a bunch of arrogant whores who write whatever puts a Tuscany Villa into their portfolio and a glass of Gevrey Chambertin in their lying gobs.


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 Post subject: Re: Suzanne Moore
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A couple of sensible bits today on Coalition cuts and a bit pointing out that the conduct of the Egyptian and Tunisian protesters defies our oft-held lazy stereotypes of the Middle East:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... -reef.html

Of course one of the worst culprits when it comes to stereotyping the Middle East is the Mail. I wonder how Suzanne Moore's column slips through the net sometimes.


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