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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:01 am 
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Not quite grasped the concept of a combustion engine, have they?


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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:33 pm 
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I take it that was on the story of the woman in York who ended up with 40% burns? That person hasn't quite grasped the concepts of taste or compassion either.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:12 pm 
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I will admit to being totally baffled. Even if she didn't realise the dangers, petrol smells. It wasn't cold or raining, so why do it indoors?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:42 pm 
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Arnold wrote:
I will admit to being totally baffled. Even if she didn't realise the dangers, petrol smells. It wasn't cold or raining, so why do it indoors?

I don't think anyone has really disputed the fact that her actions were, to use an appropriate term, somewhat lacking in sense, thought most people here seem to be shying away from really calling her anything extreme.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:43 pm 
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People do stupid things.


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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:29 pm 
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Althea wrote:
Arnold wrote:
I will admit to being totally baffled. Even if she didn't realise the dangers, petrol smells. It wasn't cold or raining, so why do it indoors?

I don't think anyone has really disputed the fact that her actions were, to use an appropriate term, somewhat lacking in sense, thought most people here seem to be shying away from really calling her anything extreme.


Like "fuck nut"? I'll happily call her that - she was keeping cans of petrol in her bloody house.

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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:31 pm 
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Was she? All I remember from the story was that she was transferring petrol between cans (for her daughter) in the kitchen whilst the gas oven was on, or something like that.

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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
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She was asked by her daughter to decant some petrol, there's no evidence she was keeping it in the house apart from taking it from one jug to another. She dropped one of the jugs and the fuel vapours ignited.
Ordinary people sometimes do stupid things. First stone and all that.


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She's got 40% burns. Let's give her a break, eh?

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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:38 pm 
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She was asked by her daughter to decant some petrol, there's no evidence she was keeping it in the house apart from taking it from one jug to another. She dropped one of the jugs and the fuel vapours ignited.
Ordinary people sometimes do stupid things. First stone and all that.


Indeed. But do people do stupid things prompted by Francis Maude? I'm thinking that's the key question here. Afraid it looks very much as if she did.

If the PM was Harold MacMillan rather than Shiny Shitface, Maude would have graciously resigned by now, but different bygone age and all that.

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Yes, she was put into a situation which made the stupid action more likely, she was endangered by Maud's cynical dissimulation. But Maud will never resign; he rules by right, don't you know? If the proles are stupid it can hardly be his fault, can it?


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The fact is people defer to authority figures, the man in the suit on the tele said that storing petrol in the house (or garage) was a good idea. In many peoples minds that will mean it must be safe, because if it wasn't the man in the suit wouldn't have said so.

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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
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I doubt she even had that much in her head. Her daughter asked her to do something and she did it without thinking. Probably the first time she had done it, so no previous experience to form a learning curve. Sad, but common.


(I poured about 100ml of petrol up my arm this afternoon, and I KNOW it's dangerous!)


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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:

(I poured about 100ml of petrol up my arm this afternoon, and I KNOW it's dangerous!)


Did you catch fire?

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 Post subject: Re: Comment of the day
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I thought about it. At the end of my arm was a running 2-stroke motor. But I decided against.


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