Steve Doughty

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:23 pm

Dacre Ploy 6b - blame the victim. The stalwart excuse of bullies everywhere.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:33 pm

I suppose it's too much to understand that cars with blue badges can have more than one person in them? So if you see a young chap rushing back to a car with a blue badger, he might have his old dad with him somewhere.

No doubt there is a fair bit of fraud for blue badges. Any chance of running an investigation instead of just paying columnists to moan?

mojojojo · **Joined:** Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:33 pm **Posts:** 4289

Messianic Trees wrote:

If public opinion is turning against the disabled, disability charities have only themselves to blame

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Disability charities should have done much more to prevent the exploitation of the benefits system by those who are not disabled. They should not have made the ridiculous claim, commonly heard a few years ago, that more than one in 10 of the population are disabled. They should have insisted on proper policing of the disability welfare system to limit the distribution of money and perks to those who actually needed them.

By perpetrating the pretence that many millions of people are disabled and nobody has wrongly milked the system the charities are putting themselves on the side of cheats and thieves. They become the ones abusing the goodwill of the great majority.

I do not blame the charities alone. The medical profession bears heavy responsibility for ticking the boxes whenever people turned up in surgeries complaining of bad backs or that their children had Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. The benefits system was based on an assumption that GPs were honest and knew their duty to the public, and both of those trusts were misplaced.

But members of the general public would be less likely to give the verbals when someone in a disabled parking space looks perfectly well if they thought the disability charities were on their side too.

What a piece of shit. See, this is what Leveson should be all over.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2839

Presumably as a result of our lazy parents, we can now expect state-subsidised potty training lessons

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It doesn’t take much working out why. Parents who go out to work and send their children to nurseries or childminders don't have much time for potty training. They expect the childminders and nurseries to do the training. Sometimes they don't.

If they don't do the basics for a toddler, it becomes questionable whether young children are really getting all that creative development and numeracy and so on. If you had a cynical mind, you might suspect that a lot of nurseries and childminders are going through the motions and ticking the boxes when the inspectors turn up.

If you were a working mother, you might begin to fret about what is really happening to your toddler while you are out earning enough to pay the mortgage.

You might even start to question whether years in day care are really good for a young child, and whether it is really best for women and for families that all mothers go out to work. You might start to wonder about the economics of employing one group of women at great expense to look after the children of another group of women.

Politicians, feminist academics and the childcare establishment have an answer to this. They say more men should come forward to work in nurseries.

I look forward to the forthcoming announcement of state-subsidised potty training lessons for unemployed men to prepare them for careers in childminding.

ezinra · **Posted:** Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:58 pm

It's Littlejohn without the 'jokes'.

oboogie · **Posted:** Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:53 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

I suppose it's too much to understand that cars with blue badges can have more than one person in them? So if you see a young chap rushing back to a car with a blue badger, he might have his old dad with him somewhere.

No doubt there is a fair bit of fraud for blue badges. Any chance of running an investigation instead of just paying columnists to moan?

A good friend of mine is occasionally reminded by the DVLA and the NHS that she is entitled to a "blue badger"*. She is 46, she was 17 in 1982 when she last had a "fit" - yes, it was so long ago that's what they were called then. To her credit, she has never ever used one as "there's nothing wrong" with her. I imagine there are plenty of others out there who are less scrupulous.

*I like that name, it gives me a vision of a vulgar woodland creature, and I'm always going to use it from now on, thanks Tubby.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:52 pm

ezinra wrote:

It's Littlejohn without the 'jokes'.

you mean he doesn't accurately summarise the views of "feminist academics"?

Oboogie, the phrase isn't copyrighted.

Malcolm Armsteen · **Posted:** Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:03 pm

Holy Blue Badger!

ezinra · **Posted:** Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:12 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

you mean he doesn't accurately summarise the views of "feminist academics"?

I'm sure some of his best friends are feminists. He may even like watching Germaine Greer on QI.

It's not really worth taking apart, any more than a Littlejohn column. However:

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You might start to wonder about the economics of employing one group of women at great expense to look after the children of another group of women.

He sounds like the sort of chap who would assume his paternal duty was complete as soon as the missus notified him (probably by email) that she'd skipped a P.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:27 pm

And he remembers that fat American feminist woman.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2839

Of all the bogus emergencies and sham crises we get excited about, homelessness is the most exaggerated

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Gourami · **Joined:** Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51 pm **Posts:** 2005

I thought you were satirising the headline - but that actually is the headline. :roll:

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The reason it isn’t working is there aren’t any homeless people, to speak of. There are so few rough sleepers that we have to import our homeless. Half the rough sleepers in London are Poles. Without Romanians, there would be nobody to sell The Big Issue. Which, by the way, ought to be re-named The Little Issue

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What a monumental prick.

What a disgusting article. How does he sleep at night? Apart from safe and warm in a big house somewhere posh, that is.

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Absolutely terrific article and long overdue. Confirms what I have long thought - that rough sleepers want to sleep rough. Simple as that. Still, they ought to be awarded an OBE for giving employment to so many charity and social worker-types who make a good living out of this bogus homelessness!

- HomeAndAway, London, 24/2/2012 2:52

Some tosspot has had his prejudice voiced, which he mistakes for proof.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2839

Time to call Len McCluskey's bluff over Olympic strike blackmail

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Len McCluskey's union has at last lived up to its name. Unite isn't really very united, but Mr McCluskey has now got just about everyone outside its ranks to agree.

As of today, there are thousands of habitually moderate, thinking people running around London calling for pickets on his house or new and more restrictive union laws.

A return to the legal framework of the time of the Tolpuddle Martyrs seems to be the consensus, with transportation for a number of years the routine penalty for forming a combination. Given the Empire has shrunk over the past 180 years or so, where to is a bit of a problem. But the majority of the population seems prepared to devote time to considering how to find the least congenial hell-hole on the planet and get Mr McCluskey there.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:41 pm

Calling the bluff would mean having the Olympics with hardly any tubes or buses running. That would be very clever.

tonysk14 · **Joined:** Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:44 pm **Posts:** 232

Messianic Trees wrote:

Time to call Len McCluskey's bluff over Olympic strike blackmail

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Len McCluskey's union has at last lived up to its name. Unite isn't really very united, but Mr McCluskey has now got just about everyone outside its ranks to agree.

As of today, there are thousands of habitually moderate, thinking people running around London calling for pickets on his house or new and more restrictive union laws.

A return to the legal framework of the time of the Tolpuddle Martyrs seems to be the consensus, with transportation for a number of years the routine penalty for forming a combination. Given the Empire has shrunk over the past 180 years or so, where to is a bit of a problem. But the majority of the population seems prepared to devote time to considering how to find the least congenial hell-hole on the planet and get Mr McCluskey there.

Could someone who lives in London please look out of their window and take a picture of the thousands of people running around calling for his house to be picketed.

I'm sure it would be very exciting.

Does he actually live in London btw

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