Ken Clarke's criminal justice policy is failing and increasing crime nationally

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The poor don't riot when they're starving.

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Probably something to do with one or two of them having been sent there. Crime is for poor people isn't it?



Depends which figures you use, not mentioning the fact that 2011 was a slightly unusual year to say the least. To say that Ken Clarke doesn't believe in prison is simplistic and glosses over a number of factors that are relevant to the issue you're supposed to be tackling.



http://fullfact.org/blog/Yvette_Cooper_ ... e_MOJ-3091 might shed some light on the dubious worth of those statistics. Whilst not specifically referring to young offenders here, you go on to suggest the London Riots provide vindication for your theory, and seeing as the rioters were by and large young people, there is some worth in pointing out that:

"The Home Office annual reports warned that since the National Crime Recording Standard was introduced in April 2002, “figures before and after that date are not directly comparable.”

and crime amongst the young actually seems to be decreasing according to some sources.



Mark Duggan. Stop and Search. Unemployment. Disenfranchisement. No?
Labour you say? That's settled then, no further questions.

As for



This is a reprehensible and utterly cynical attempt to skew the debate by making irrelevant comparisons between the First and Third World. Saudi Arabia is much more heavy handed in it's approach to crime. Fancy going to a Saudi prison? Twat. Just because your UKIP mates think the colour of your skin means they can hold you up as some sort of Oriental wise man/diplomat, doesn't mean you can use your immigrant status to piss all over the hundreds of thousands of souls across the globe, simply to flesh out an achingly transparent piece of far-Right propaganda masquerading as journalism or "commentary".



No you cunt, you do. Go love some medical waste.



I assume you will be the loudest of supporters for harsher sentencing when your mate Geert gets his collar felt for incitement to racial hatred, or a few of your party's "core voters" are asked by a judge to explain what the powder in their pocket is.

If I were you, I'd try and get the Monster Raving Loony Party criminalised instead.

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That is the most pathetic attempt to pretend he gives a shit about the Third World.

Here's evidence of that soft Labour sentencing:



Prison clearly being phased out in the last 20 years.

And of course the idea that the "yoof" take signals from Kenneth Clarke is ridiculous.

I'm in ignorance here, who is he?

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@ Malcolm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhijit_Pandya

*edited to avoid double post*

When I was at Stratford college we had the pleasure of a lecture from Nadhim Zahawi MP Con,
an Iraqi Kurd, who much like Mr Pandya, was in favour of tougher immigration control. When a friend of mine asked him how easy it would have been for his parents to flee Saddam under the laws he was campaigning to bring in, there were a few mumbled assurances that efforts would be made to differentiate betewen "good immigration" and "bad immigration", although when pressed he wouldn't provide details. I loathe the mindset that makes it OK for people like them to pull the ladder up behind them whilst cheerfully aligning themselves with the smuggest racists they can find. Utter utter bastards.

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Rising crime, in London anyway, seems to have a fair bit to do with the Coalition:

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-s ... -robberies

After 12 years of falls, while prison was being phased out. So "continues to rise" means started to rise when your fellow travellers showed up in government.

Head of Research at UKIP. An Oxymoron, then...

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I note that Pandya is a luminary of something called "The Birkenhead Society"' founded in 2005 and avowedly dedicated "to promote free speech and British culture".

http://www.birkenheadsoc.co.uk/home/4545443636

The name is surprising, since most people in Birkenhead, with the possible exception of Frank Field, would kick these cunts' arses out of town all the way along the Borough Road.

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FTFY
A giddying glimpse into the Emmet Jenner filofax n'est-ce pas?

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Anything named after Lord Somebody Victorian/Edwardian is probably full of arseholes. Ho, ho, his lordship wouldn't have liked multiculturalism, ho, ho.

Nadhim Zahawi was talking shit on Channel 4 News recently about London firemen living outside London. He said they needed to to be treated like errant MPs. Firemen flipping houses, claiming £23k of mortgage interest, buying duck islands etc.

He's apparently been employed by the LSE to teach law.

He's Jeffrey Archer's little pet project, so you'd think he knows quite a bit about how errant MPs get treated.

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The EU’s new pension proposals will make us £600 billion poorer

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Party affiliations in the European Council (21 December 2011)

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