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Only 37% of English describe themselves as 'British' as Cameron pledges to protect Union

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

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The poll commissioned by The Daily Telegraph also revealed strong support for the Britain- with more than six out of 10 English voters saying they feel "British".



so 60% =37%


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Only 37% of English describe themselves as 'British' as Cameron pledges to protect Union

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

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The poll commissioned by The Daily Telegraph also revealed strong support for the Britain- with more than six out of 10 English voters saying they feel "British".



so 60% =37%


describe themselves as 'British' != feel 'British', TBF


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Going back to our discussions reguarding private sector involvment in the NHS

Potsy70 - Thanks for the insight into the inner workings of hospitals, maybe my Thursday post was a bit strong, i just get tired of the 'bash the private sector' attitude of some on the left wing.

Baht At - 'load of bollocks' would be a pretty good summary of what you just posted mate :roll:

Anyhow, I recommend the following program to see how not all private sector big wigs are money grabbing scum:

http://www.open2.net/nhs/oneyearon/index.html

Robinson for PM i say!


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Loada bollocks


I think you have spent to much time on the Daily mail message board. Demolishing a statement written by a professional in a single sentence with no actual facts to back it up?

Incidently I am medical professional and I have yet to take even a single backhander. Ive not even started a slush fund. Im obviously well behind the curve, how will I afford my luxury island now?

I wonder how many of those 63% of "non British" describe themselves as English? Im guessing about 62%.


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Loada bollocks


I think you have spent to much time on the Daily mail message board. Demolishing a statement written by a professional in a single sentence with no actual facts to back it up?


How do you know I haven't the fact to back it up? Just because I don't post it on a mail-bashing site? As a matter of fact I do have the facts, from a turn-round specialist who has advised several failing trusts and is appalled not only at the excessive layers of management but also how the medical staff have absorbed the attitudes that it is easier and safer to push paper than treat patients.

You only need to look at the McCanns to see the sad slide in quality of medical staff.


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So essentially your evidence is anecdotal which you have used to tar all NHS medical staff. Great.

Well the good olde doctors werent much better, Dr Crippin was a highly valued member of the community before dissolving his wife in a bath of acid.


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So essentially your evidence is anecdotal which you have used to tar all NHS medical staff. Great.

Well the good olde doctors werent much better, Dr Crippin was a highly valued member of the community before dissolving his wife in a bath of acid.
annecdotal? OK if you consider the facts found on looking at failing trusts annecdotal just because they suggest that part of medical profession have become just another bunch of money grubbing mail-reading shysters then that's fine by me. True they aren't quite as bad as the managers and management consultants but that's not saying much.

Actually in case you've been asleep recently there's a fair amount of evidence that Crippen was somewhat falsely accused after his wife did a canoe job.

Then again I only reply on evidence from trusted sources rather than sensationalist crime reporting so what would I know.

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This is obviously getting nowhere.

At least you have narrowed down your accusations now.


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Palindrome wrote:
This is obviously getting nowhere.

At least you have narrowed down your accusations now.
No I haven't - I've merely added the words that anyone sane would take as read, namely that my statements apply to those individuals who have taken that line not everyone (although to be honest I see few attempts by the medical profession to restrain the greed and lack of ethics of some of their members)


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Wife 'cured' by prayer can't get benefits stopped because government computer doesn't recognise miracles

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The allowance was stopped and Mrs Clarke has since been able to repay the money by working as a carer.


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Wife 'cured' by prayer can't get benefits stopped because government computer doesn't recognise miracles

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The allowance was stopped and Mrs Clarke has since been able to repay the money by working as a carer.


All they needed to do was change to the past tense, what happend to the glorious three 'R's at Mail towers :?:


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This is actually form the Sun, but it's such a good one that I'm going to post anyway:

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Story: Asda fires single mum over blatantly fraudulent use of staff discount card.


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The Asda thing IS shit. "Blatantly fraudulent" is a little off, seeing as it was a) her daughter and b) only 2p.


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Taliban behead grandmother and grandson, 7, for 'spying for the Americans'

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Taliban militants have beheaded an old woman and her grandson accused of spying for the US military, officials said.

The shocking executions took place in Uruzgan's Dihrawud district, said provincial police chief, Juma Gul Himat. The militants accused the woman of spying for government and NATO forces.

Militants stopped the pair yesterday as they were walking to their home in south-central Uruzgan province, Himat told AFP.

"Our investigations and findings from the area say they were accused of spying and were shot in front of other people," he said, adding the boy was aged seven.


In fact the whole article is a complete mess. They even use a file picture of Nick Berg before he was beheaded. Why, when this isn't even a beheading...? Surely not for sensationalism?

But I suppose readers are only meant to read the headline and then be suitably outraged at those barbaric muslims whereas another couple of Afghans being shot by the Taliban would be neither here nor there. :(


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Headline: Ofcom probes 999 data blunder that could have had 'fatal consequnces' for millions of families

The story: Virgin media hasn't been keeping the 999 database up to date.
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Telephone watchdog Ofcom has launched an urgent investigation after it was revealed that millions of families were put in danger because their phone company did not pass on their details to the emergency services.

"Millions of families"

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A secret report prepared by Virgin Media, Britain's second biggest phone company, revealed that the addresses of more than a million of its customers were inaccurately listed on the 999 database used by police, fire and ambulance services. Some 310,000 were missing altogether.



Headline misses out the fact it's virgin and includes 'data blunder' presumably to make everyone think of "family allowance discs"
And unless "more than a million" is more than two million, it's not plural.

Oh yeah and the only reason it might be fatal is if someone rings but then falls unconscious and the 999 operator can't trace the correct address for the call. Serious, yes, but only risky to a very small %


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