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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:07 am 
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The remote island schools with no pupils... but a headmaster on £44,000 a year

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With no pupils to teach on the islands, Mr Poole is acting as the head of Inverie primary school, located on the remote Knoydart peninsula.
He will also help staff at Lady Lovat primary school in Morar


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 Post subject: Re: Headline vs story
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:59 am 
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This one is deliberate:

Paying a cleaner in cash 'is morally wrong': Minister says families who settle bills cash-in-hand are as bad as tax avoiders

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He said: ‘Getting a discount with your plumber by paying cash in hand is something that is a big cost to the Revenue and means others must pay more in tax.’

I can't work out if this is:

a) A dogwhistle for green-eyed Mailites to rant about uppity women who employ cleaners;

b) Because Herr Dacre pays his plumber in cash and sees nothing wrong with that;

c) Because it's more fun to pick on cleaners as they're likely to be women, whereas most plumbers and gardeners are men;

d) Because quite a few plumbers read the Mail;

e) Because Dacre is a cunt;

f) Several or all of the above.


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 Post subject: Re: Headline vs story
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:02 pm 
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The headline said plumber earlier, they've obviously changed it because plumbing has a bit more of a professional image these days.

Personally, I too am thoroughly sick of all these benefit claimants and asylum seekers paying their cleaning staff cash in hand.

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This is transparently a "we're all at it, so give the super-rich a break" exercise. Do they think we're mugs?


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The Mailite response to tax avoidance on this report is significantly different to their response on the BBC tax avoidance story. The standard Mailite has the most extraordinarily elastic set of morality standards, combined with a sublime lack of awareness of his/her own hypocrisy.


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 Post subject: Re: Headline vs story
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:34 pm 
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Well thinking about it, a plumber or such like who accepts payment in cash and then deliberately doesn't declare it is guilty of tax evasion, which is a criminal offence, whereas tax avoidance, as practiced by the super-rich, is quite legal.

So he's right to disapprove of tax evasion. The difficulty arises when he tries to make the customer culpable too. If you're getting a bit off the job, why the hell shouldn't you settle in cash? It's down to the plumber/mechanic/builder/sex appliance maintenance (wo)man whether or not (s)he declares that income, isn't it?

That said, I can envisage a stern Daily Mailer giving a tradesman a dressing down : " A hundred and eighty for cash, you say? You scoundrel, you'll bloody well take this cheque for three hundred pounds and like it. I'm not causing our beloved government any more revenue problems! "

Or probably, not.

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Killer Whale wrote:
This is transparently a "we're all at it, so give the super-rich a break" exercise. Do they think we're mugs?


Well they think that some people are mugs because indeed they are. However I share your sentiment.....

Wrong target....

The mail is in a state of cognitive dissonance... which could be a good thing .... it could be a terrible thing.....

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:03 am 
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Torygraph columnist nails the hypocrisy (final para) ;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/9423946/How-to-speak-the-secret-language-of-the-Olympics.html


Politically, the big news today was the claim by David Gauke, a Treasury minister, that paying tradesmen cash-in-hand is “morally wrong”. Naturally, the Telegraph's James Kirkup asked the three ministers present at the Olympic briefings whether they themselves had ever paid anyone cash-in-hand. Their answers were curiously worded.
“I personally have never dodged tax,” said Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt, failing to answer the question he’d been asked and instead answering one that he hadn’t.
“Would I make cash payments to avoid VAT? No, I certainly wouldn’t,” said Crime minister James Brokenshire, for some reason using a tense that covers future actions rather than past ones.
“No, I’ve always been actually quite careful to make sure that anybody doing work on my house, or anybody who does any work for me, frankly, is dealing with their own tax affairs properly,” rambled Transport Secretary Justine Greening.

Personally, if I’d never paid anyone cash-in-hand, I’d have said, “No, I’ve never paid anyone cash-in-hand.” I don’t know why they couldn’t give an answer as simple as that. Perhaps all that Gamesish has rubbed off on them.

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“No, I’ve always been actually quite careful to make sure that anybody doing work on my house, or anybody who does any work for me, frankly, is dealing with their own tax affairs properly,” rambled Transport Secretary Justine Greening.

How? HMRC won't tell you.

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The whole thing is somewhat odd. Do they pay their window cleaner, gardener, etc. by credit card? I suppose in the kinds of places MPs live that is actually possible. For normal people, it's cash or nothing.


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The whole thing is somewhat odd. Do they pay their window cleaner, gardener, etc. by credit card? I suppose in the kinds of places MPs live that is actually possible. For normal people, it's cash or nothing.

I think the idea is that you get an invoice and pay by cheque or BACS. The fact that a huge number of people now no longer have chequebooks seems to have escaped them; together with the alarming number of businesses who lack the administrative capacity to reconcile a bank statement.

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Cheque? That's a blast from the past.. :o Are politicians that out of touch?

Of course, paying by cheque or even BACS(!!) proves nothing about whether the trader has paid tax.


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Scandal of healthy grandmother who died in hospital after going without food for seven days

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During seven of the eight nights before her operation, she was not allowed food water as she was expected to undergo the procedure the following day but it was postponed three times at the last moment

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Missing comma after 'postponed'?


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