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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:45 pm 
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Hitler isn't to blame for all European racism. To be frank, all racists are responsible for their own racism.

If they cannot figure out that racism is a fantastic way of demonstrating self hatred then they are a waste of oxygen.

There are a lot of people who hate themselves and need other groups to blame when their lives turn to shit. A lot of Eastern Europeans are very aware that they are looked down upon by Western European racist self haters. So in turn, as to not feel like they are the bottom of the heap, they look down on black people.

That's my best guess anyway. There may be other reasons and better guesses.

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:48 pm 
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Sounds as good as any theory I heard.

What I meant was that, well, Hitler's actions can't have been entirely responsible for East Europe's current views. It's entirely likely that it's contributed to them, but... I can't really see him being the sole progenitor of that attitude.

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Althea wrote:
What I meant was that, well, Hitler's actions can't have been entirely responsible for East Europe's current views. It's entirely likely that it's contributed to them, but... I can't really see him being the sole progenitor of that attitude.


I don't think Hitler is responsible for them to any significant degree. That's my point.

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Oh the Mail attacking Eastern Europeans for being racist.

How did I miss that?

Back to the shop with my irony meter.

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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I don't think Hitler is responsible for them to any significant degree. That's my point.

And mine.

Phew. :p

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Oh I see, at least I think, you were referring back to the comment.

Phew indeed..

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Althea wrote:
I dunno. I know nothing much about East European history.

Just don't see, entirely, why Hitler would necessarily be to blame for Polish (and other East European) racism after everything he did. And stuff... y'know.

There's a quite high amount of Neo Nazi skinheads in Poland, seemingly ignorant of the fact that Hitler hated Slavs.....
Then again, racists don't tend to be anything close to double figure IQs

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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There's a quite high amount of Neo Nazi skinheads in Poland, seemingly ignorant of the fact that Hitler hated Slavs.....
Then again, racists don't tend to be anything close to double figure IQs

A bit like how British skinheads (and perhaps even American ones) take a lot of their stylistic influences from Jamaican culture?

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Althea wrote:
Captain VXR wrote:
There's a quite high amount of Neo Nazi skinheads in Poland, seemingly ignorant of the fact that Hitler hated Slavs.....
Then again, racists don't tend to be anything close to double figure IQs

A bit like how British skinheads (and perhaps even American ones) take a lot of their stylistic influences from Jamaican culture?

Yeah, I think irony is a concept the bigoted haven't heard of :lol:
I was browsing Stormfront earlier, according to racists non white violence = proof they're all savages, whereas white racist violence = noble people standing up for themselves

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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Captain VXR wrote:
Althea wrote:
Captain VXR wrote:
There's a quite high amount of Neo Nazi skinheads in Poland, seemingly ignorant of the fact that Hitler hated Slavs.....
Then again, racists don't tend to be anything close to double figure IQs

A bit like how British skinheads (and perhaps even American ones) take a lot of their stylistic influences from Jamaican culture?

Yeah, I think irony is a concept the bigoted haven't heard of :lol:
I was browsing Stormfront earlier, according to racists non white violence = proof they're all savages, whereas white racist violence = noble people standing up for themselves



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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Althea wrote:
Captain VXR wrote:
There's a quite high amount of Neo Nazi skinheads in Poland, seemingly ignorant of the fact that Hitler hated Slavs.....
Then again, racists don't tend to be anything close to double figure IQs

A bit like how British skinheads (and perhaps even American ones) take a lot of their stylistic influences from Jamaican culture?


The earliest skinheads, who copied most from Jamaican culture, were no more racist than any other section of society.


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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Absolutely. Slade started out as a skinhead band.


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 Post subject: Re: Mail hypocrisy
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Where's Dimbleby when you need him? How the BBC's coverage of Queen's Thames pageant sank under a tide of inanity

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Did Kate really have to steal the show in her scarlet dress? The rest of the Royal party opted for a muted palette... but she stood out

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A vintage day for fashion and even Princess Beatrice got it right as the Queen celebrates Jubilee with river pageant
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Well, I was in tears. When the Queen emerged from her limo, she shimmered.

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I'm absolutely ghastflabbered that the DM want a Dimble Beast on the Bolshevik Broadcasting Channel thingywhatsit.

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