The 'drug smuggler from suburbia': Chaotic life of the middle-aged British housewife, 56, caught 'carrying £1.6million of cocaine into Bali'

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Repeat ad nauseam.....




She also has form as a local sad-facer but no pics (as yet) for comparison:

I dunno about that ukip Mike, there are some actions that most of us would consider crimes that one can easily get away with in Thailand, eh mate?

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Mailites never let concepts like the presumption of innocence or waiting till all the facts are available get in the way of airing their prejudices, do they?

This is one of my "mailite " views to be frank. I lived in South East Asia for a number of years, and had no compassion whatsoever for the foreigners caught drug smuggling. The laws are quite clear and stories of evil men duping them tend to be very flimsy, greed motivates them.

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The laws are complete bullsh*t. Why do you think they got hit so hard by AQ? Loads of senior figures on the island are all at it. This woman is coming from a chaotic, desperate and arguably vulnerable background here in the UK. She's clearly not Mrs Big (well... hurr hurr Mail reader waist watch). What on earth are they doing parading prisoners around like this? Did Don Rumsfeld personally draw up the Bali Book of Justice? Use or even threat of firing squads shames and regresses all these ASEAN countries. It's repulsive.

Why are the Mail putting up a phone number for this in the sub-headers? Their speed-dial estate agents having trouble with some offshore estimates?

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The fact that as a foreigner you are likely to be treated more harshly is another reason to stay clear as far as I am concerned. How chaotic does your background have to be to avoid the massive warning signs at all the airports she landed at?

Yes the death penalty is repulsive, but the countries have enough problems without foreigners adding to them in a manner which carries colonial overtones.

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Your wasting your time Story Girl. If mail readers are attacking someone, Mailwatch members are expected to defend them, whoever they are or whatever they did.

And vice-versa.

A forum that has become a pathetic parody of the tabloid rags that it targets

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Nice to see you, too.

If you've got no compassion for anyone potentially facing a death penalty, aside from al-Assad style figures, I think you're on the wrong forum, end of story.

UPDATE: They've got the house prices through!



OK, they're clearly solid middle-class, fire at will

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"...now, with a most inhuman cruelty, they who have put out the people’s eyes, reproach them of their blindness..."

Personally I'm glad to hear that there are no human rights in Asia. Simple statements that enable me to understand the world in a manner my binary brain can interpret.

This will be why throughout all countries on that benighted/blessed [delete as applicable] continent, all citizens are generally incarcerated from birth and/or arbitrarily murdered and/or mutilated for the use of their body parts. And if they answer back a friendly policeman gives them a clip around the ear.

'Tis the same from Yokohama to Yakutsk.

The current angle on that story is the fact that the 6 year old child of two of the people involved is left on her own with a couple of locals looking after her whilst her parents are in prison and facing the firing squad. Yet there are still several commenters coming out with the "No sympathy" line. Whatever you think about the parents, how brain dead do you have to be to be incapable of sympathising with an innocent child in that situation?

So far as the comments of Storygirl and Mr Mordon are concerned, if these people are guilty I fully agree that they deserve virtually any punishment that is coming to them. BUT that rests on a massive assumption that none of us are justified in making on the basis of a few newspaper reports. And I say "virtually" because I just cannot accept that the state is ever justified in the cold-blooded killing of anyone, no matter what they have done.

There's an array of human rights in Yokohama dude. Japan only uses the noose every few years on some truly awful multiple murderers, as I understand it. It's a tough call to make in an ultra educated, affluent country with hardly any violent offences taking place. As always, there's a political/electorate angle, for sure.

As for Bali, well, clearly just a backward basket-case of a state if they treat human beings like this, who haven't even killed anybody -shaking head- The proud Hindu state that lets party-goers drink themselves silly
The middle aged woman is an unfortunate, pathetic and pitiful pawn in a much larger game. Cocaine in moderation makes people feel great ffs, and as we all know, untold banknotes across the UK are powdered with the stuff. It was good enough for Queen Vic back in the day. Why is it even illegal? Stop the violent production and distribution of it, free up the prisons, and avoid horrible incidents like this, simple as. Last time I was in South East Asia, there was wide spread proliferation of opium cigarettes, and I never saw any police swoops, let alone reports filter back of dealers being gunned down

Some of these Mail ex-pats who live in these places could quite easily get stitched up and fall foul of all these 'laws'... any decent human being still wouldn't wish to see them paraded out like this, then sprayed with bullets against wooden stakes, surely

What was it that old Tory totem Churchill said about gauging civilisation by the treatment of prisoners...

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I used to kinda think "yeah, some people should be put to death", but then I heard Ian Hislop argue that if you have a death penalty, it doesn't deter crime (at all) and there's a possibility that the person in question was actually innocent - if you've killed them, you can't do shit about it.

But drug smuggling? Very, very complex issue. I don't think it's something that should be punishable by death (that's extreme) but there can be a lot of pain, misery and violence involved with drugs.

But that kid? Damn. Just damn. Was a bit pissed with ITV (I think) who broadcast a bit of footage of her - Someone needs to point that out to Brian. There was no need to show some footage of the girl on the news.

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There is no justification for the death penalty. Life is an inalienable right.
I can make a theoretical defence for torture much more easily.

I do believe that drugs can, and do, do harm to some people in some circumstances, whilst many others can indulge with little effect. That makes for a difficult decision on prohibition.
But now the whole debate is political, and that is even further from a reason to take someone's life.

There was a time when every case like this was met with a general belief that they must be innocent because they're British and them foreigns legal system isn't as good as ours. Now the default position is Hang 'em High and our courts should be like that. I'm not sure which kneejerk I prefer.