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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:29 am 
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Quite apart from the irony of an EDL member being Welsh, and the standard EDL low attainment in written English, it's remarkable how many of thse turds actually believe that they are being discriminated against because they are white. I suppose it's more comforting than accepting that you are 'discriminated' against because you lack the basic intelligence and drive to be employable, or indeed be anything other than a human dangleberry.


There are two things you can guarantee when they say something like that. The first is that they've never been discriminated against themselves. The second is that they know someone who knows someone who has.


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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:43 am 
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A third is that they use racial slurs, but either 'humorously' or to illustrate their freedom as an English citizen to say whatever they want.
In any case, that's not discrimination, it's just words.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:43 pm 
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I read that article yesterday and looked through the comments and rather despaired at the widespread failure to grasp that the study investigated perceptions, not objective measures. For some reason I was drawn back to skim it again today and I'm left thinking there is just too much eagerness. Too many people triumphantly holding up the evidence that they are right to be racist fuckwits. The raw neediness is terrible. Despite the obvious stupidity, limited life experience and all-round ignorance on display most of the comments were written by people who were clearly primed to only read the article as confirming their prejudice.

The Mail knows their audience of course and their readers know where to get their daily dose of victimhood, self-righteous indignation and hate. But what a repellent set-up. I sat opposite a Mail reader on the train yesterday who harrumphed and tut-tutted his way through his comic for the entire journey. A real bitter old sod. How can a person sit there and soak this nonsense up, surrounded by lots of contradictory evidence? It's back to perception I suppose - frames of reference. We see what we look for. He could have looked at a beautiful sunset through the window and seen skin-cancer coming for him. Always him.


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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:08 pm 
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Nicely put, J.
I admit I scroll through the Mail looking for items that reinforce my own prejudices about the prejudices of the Mail. Then I go and read the Guardian, with a different (less critical?) mindset. Silly of me, really, because once you work out how journalism works, there's really no excuse for reading any of it without sharp teeth and claws.
Reading through the comments about anti-white prejudice, it strikes me that nobody has bothered to give an example. Neither the commenters nor the journalist (nor even the researchers?) have tried to define discrimination, or talk about degrees of discrimination. It's basically a conversation in which everyone agrees without attempting to understand what the others are talking about. The word that springs to mind to describe such people is 'bores'.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:13 pm 
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Nicely put, J.
I admit I scroll through the Mail looking for items that reinforce my own prejudices about the prejudices of the Mail. Then I go and read the Guardian, with a different (less critical?) mindset. Silly of me, really, because once you work out how journalism works, there's really no excuse for reading any of it without sharp teeth and claws.
Reading through the comments about anti-white prejudice, it strikes me that nobody has bothered to give an example. Neither the commenters nor the journalist (nor even the researchers?) have tried to define discrimination, or talk about degrees of discrimination. It's basically a conversation in which everyone agrees without attempting to understand what the others are talking about. The word that springs to mind to describe such people is 'bores'.


They don't bother with any of that evidence based nonsense, they've got "common sense" on their side.


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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:30 pm 
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I've made my mind up don't bother me with the facts.

Here is a textbook example of how they nudge their readers to where they privately want to be anyway.

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Mr Justice Keith allowed Lorraine Mbulawa to walk free from court


Something as simple as a caption under a photograph. If it wasn't about a black girl with non-mainstream beliefs it might have read differently somehow. Perhaps "Mr Justice Keith, who was appointed to oversee the trial".

The trick is that this symbiotic little charade has to be just disguised enough to absolve the readership from having to feel too bad about being total abject cunts. Then they can get on with unpicking the fabric of society whilst bemoaning their fate. That done they can get back to curtain-twitching and spreading gossip about the black family who moved in 5 streets away and oh think of the house prices. Some of my best friends are black, they're just like real people, marvellous sense of rhythmn. Let's put the Great back in Great Yarmouth. Won't somebody think of the Great Crested Grebe? Nurse where's me pills?!


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'Racist' Australia compared to Apartheid South Africa by UN Human Rights commissioner

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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:25 pm 
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t merely reinforces the theory that racism is an excuse for dodgy minorities, and not something that really exists.
- Jason, Doncaster, England, 25/5/2011 15:43


You heard it here first people, racism doesn't exist because some criminals are darkie

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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
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'The browning of America': Time lapse map shows how minorities in U.S. will become the majority



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Why only the US ? Doesn't the UK exist in your eyes ? How about a similar 'Prediction' for the UK ? Come on Mail do your reporting on THIS side of the Atlantic please ?

- B.W.Moore. Mr., Stockton on Tees UK, 27/5/2011 0:25
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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:41 pm 
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good....the whole world is mixing up .......the only place that will hold off this mix up is china will be last to go.....and russia will be second to last....the rest of the world will resemble brazil within 300 years.....a new race is emerging........THE MIXED RACE...and i love it.

- DefJam, london, 27/5/2011 12:10
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and the votes say, down with...racial harmony?

it's not fantastically put together but he makes a good point, a lot of these "non-white" people are actually going to be mixed race, so have a white background, even a majority white background (say, a single black grandparent).

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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:05 pm 
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Mail readers love to bash Naomi Campbell for some reason:

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Cambell said "It's upsetting to be described as chocolate..." but I don't see how or why. Black people of certain shades have skin colour that looks very much like chocolate. I personally think chocolate is sweet and delicious... and very attractive, too. I'd have been more offended by the 'diva' reference! She doesn't look anything like Elton John, does she?
- RolloTomasi, Bangkok, Thailand, 29/5/2011 9:46     Rating   5

OK, Rollo, how about if we compared your daughter to a slab of meat. Does that make it easier?
And why can none of these cretins spell Campbell? Izz it because she is black?

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Cambell needs to check the Oxford dictionary on what racism means. Racism means when someone ,makes a derogatory remark about someone's race implying they are from an inferior race of people. It has nothing to do with colour of skin.
- john f., ipswich, england., 29/5/2011 13:53     Rating   26

OED definition of racism: "(Belief in, adherence to, or advocacy of) the theory that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, qualities etc specific to that race … prejudice, discrimination, antagonism based on this."
john f pedantry fail.

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It all started to go downhill when Robersons took their Golly Wog from the jam jars...
- maggie, london, 29/5/2011 3:31     Rating   75

FFS. And it's RoberTsons, with a T, you illiterate cunt.

Naturally when someone with half a brain comes along, the red arrows fly:
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Oh and since when would you use a white person to advertisedark chocolate and then compare that white person to that chocolate? This would never happen. Neither would a white person be compared to white chocolate, because only non white people have the indignity of being used in this way, but we are never allowed to mention this for fear of insulting DM readers!
- Elle, Hertfordshire, 29/5/2011 15:57     Rating   121


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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:31 pm 
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good....the whole world is mixing up .......the only place that will hold off this mix up is china will be last to go.....and russia will be second to last....the rest of the world will resemble brazil within 300 years.....a new race is emerging........THE MIXED RACE...and i love it.

- DefJam, london, 27/5/2011 12:10
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and the votes say, down with...racial harmony?

it's not fantastically put together but he makes a good point, a lot of these "non-white" people are actually going to be mixed race, so have a white background, even a majority white background (say, a single black grandparent).


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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:31 pm 
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There are a lot of reassuringly intelligent comments on the N-word story, including several pointing the finger at the Mail and its readers for creating a climate in which racism can flourish. Still, many are struggling to understand the concept of privilege: perhaps because they are adamant that they, Mail readers, are the true oppressed people, they don't see that the meaning of a word changes according to who is saying it, in what context, and to whom. Or perhaps they're just thick.

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Thing is, if it was Snoop Dogg or Ice T who said this to him, there'd be no issue - he'd write it off as the equivalent being called 'mate'. But because it's white guy, albeit some idiot queening it up trying to show he has 'character', he's an easy target. As a malicious racist epithet, the N word is about 15 years out of date. While I don't condone genuine racism, I fail to see how this is really a racist incident and not simply a massive over-reaction by the 'journalist' (who I'm sure is loving the publicity....death threat excepted). (my emphasis)

- Rob, Amsterdam, 31/5/2011 10:49 Rating 15

Yo Rob in Hamsterdam! Dig the fly gangsta references. Extra respeck for da homophobia!
When I be hanging with my crew, I feel them when they say da N-word ain't no less malicious, no less racist than it ever be.
Also, that be a big exception, innit!


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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -life.html


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Some people cant take a bit of banter. Different when the shoe is on the other foot.
- John , Colchester UK, 3/6/2011 12:21
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So what, he is entitled to his own views. Or must we all toe the pc line.
- Charles, Essex, 3/6/2011 12:53
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and 57 people agree with this one - Seems quite amusing to me. If you were working with him you would constantly be inciting him or waiting for the next outrageous comment. At least he was consistent he viewed everyone with equal disdain.
- Pablo Hemingway, Londonish, 2/6/2011 22:27
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However, the good news is that the highest rated comments are all hostile to him.


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 Post subject: Re: Rampant racism
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:35 pm 
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He ought to put himself forward as a Ukip candidate. They're always on the look out for good men, and I'm sure he'd fit right in.

Or maybe become the face of the Campaign Against Political Correctness.

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