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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:55 pm 
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her husband James, a traffic warden

Did the sub-editor not spot that he's a cash-raiding traffic nazi who punishes otherwise-law-abiding motorists? PLU disaster.

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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There should be a Daily Mail v National Child Measurement Programme thread. They have run this non-story a dozen or so times.


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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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App-y rash: iPhone cover sparks allergic reaction covering woman's face and neck in painful bright red rash


Allergic to practically everything it seems, at least her handy iphone meant she had high res pics of her affliction.

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1quO0d83L


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Jeebus. Was the term "like a slapped arse" ever more apt?

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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Another cracking example of 'parents receive what thy think is potentially distressing news about their child. And then waste no time in telling the child all about it'

If I was told that my little girl was dangerously overweight at that age should I.

A: Instill early anorexia by letting her know that she's FAT

B: Say nothing but carefully alter her diet slightly. After all, at that age my wife and I are in 100% control of what she eats and when.

That said, the kid doesn't look overweight TBH


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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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That said, the kid doesn't look overweight TBH

That's because she isn't.

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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That said, the kid doesn't look overweight TBH

That's because she isn't.


Yep. Didn't Red Malcolm get to the gist of it on the previous page? What we have here is a clear case of thick bastard parents that don't understand what was told to them.

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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I think so, but - I have to admit I didn't fully read the article - I'm not particularly sure who's in the right or wrong here.

It seems like doing anything but measuring the child is potentially going to lead to something like this, and it can be quite severe in some cases. It's not so much that BMI is pretty much complete BS, but more this idea that we have these weights we should or shouldn't be. Anyone who looks at that kid can tell you she's not overweight. It doesn't take a health expert to sort that one out, but what we now have - whether it's due to the parents or not - is a young girl who could possibly end up in a rough place due to what's gone on.

That's my problem with the story.

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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Althea wrote:
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That said, the kid doesn't look overweight TBH

That's because she isn't.


Indeed. But let's tell the kid how fat she is!


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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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Abernathy wrote:
Jeebus. Was the term "like a slapped arse" ever more apt?


More like her face caught fire and someone put it out with a shovel.

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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37201xoIM wrote:
This strikes me as a fairly competent effort; while there's no copy of the "offending" letter and the father is closer to resignation than true sadfacing, I'd say this was another respectable effort in the junior league. And we do have the bike as a prop to demonstrate the active lifestyle of which the Marxist social-engineering pen-pushers were ignorant or, more likely, which they chose maliciously to ignore.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -zone.html

I note also that the mother's physique appears to prevent the camera from focusing on her correctly.

Also love the way they need to explain to their readers what a [per-]centile is.


Her mother is a former a former anorexic. Seriously.

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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37201xoIM wrote:
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I note also that the mother's physique appears to prevent the camera from focusing on her correctly.

Could that be because the photographer was focusing on attempting to get an upskirt of the little girl?

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 Post subject: Re: The sad faces of wronged Mail readers
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Althea wrote:
I think so, but - I have to admit I didn't fully read the article - I'm not particularly sure who's in the right or wrong here.

It seems like doing anything but measuring the child is potentially going to lead to something like this, and it can be quite severe in some cases


Wouldn't that make for a pretty pointless screening program?

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It's not so much that BMI is pretty much complete BS,


BMI is a proxy indicator, like all proxy indicators it is occasionally wron but it's still the best (simple) one available.

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but more this idea that we have these weights we should or shouldn't be. Anyone who looks at that kid can tell you she's not overweight. It doesn't take a health expert to sort that one out,


But there is vast amounts of quantatative evidence to suggest that this is the gas, at least in health terms.
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but what we now have- whether it's due to the parents or not - is a young girl who could possibly end up in a rough place due to what's gone on.

That's my problem with the story.


It is a difficult situation and it's not ideal that the girl be put in that position however conversely if no attempt at early intervention for overweight children is made then the resaults, in population terms and coining by current trends, would be much worse.

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