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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:42 pm 
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No to racist police?..and yet looking at the rest of his name and his post, something tells me that isn't an accurate statement about how he feels about racist police.

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No to racist police?..and yet looking at the rest of his name and his post, something tells me that isn't an accurate statement about how he feels about racist police.

When he says "racist", he's referring to all those disgraceful police officers who unaccountably lock up white people for going around beating up Muzzies.


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Douglas Carswell, the Conservative MP for Clacton and a longstanding critic of the Civil Service, told the Daily Telegraph that the extra holiday underlined the case for reforming Whitehall.
He said: 'This is further evidence that this is a government run by senior civil servants for the convenience of senior civil servants.
'If small businesses in my constituency adopted Whitehall’s work ethic, they would go bankrupt. It is plainly wrong for taxpayers to be made to fund extra days off for civil servants.'


His constituency contains this place:

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In March 2011 East Jaywick was named as the most deprived area in England according to the Indices of deprivation 2010, based on multiple factors including poverty, crime, education and skill levels, unemployment and housing, as assessed in 2008.


An EU/TPA/Israel bore like Carswell is obviously exactly the guy to fight their corner.


You've probably heard that in Jaywick they regard the wicker man as aspirational lifestyle/property porn.


You been there? I'm going to have a look one day when I wake up early enough.

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Passport processing delays 'crippling UK recovery by holding up essential business operations' as waiting times TRIPLE in just two years

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Businesses have warned that the delays are crippling Britain's economic recovery while travel firms claim that some holidaymakers are missing out on trips abroad which they have already paid for.

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No sympathy for people who book expensive holidays abroad without realising their passports have or are about to expire..... Tip, when considering booking a holiday, look at your passport first to see if it's valid! If not then apply for a new one BEFORE you book a holiday!!! Travel agents are actually told to check with customers that they have a valid passport before booking a trip which of course they don't, because they don't care, they just want your money!!
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If people have to cancel holidays it is not the passport office's fault. I would make sure I have the travel documents I needed to travel well in advance, not wait until a couple of weeks before going to apply/renew! The passport office add on remaining months from the last passport so it's not like you're bring short changed.
- JennyWrenRobin, Dunstable, Bedfordshire, 16/6/2012 16:03
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SHAMELESS LOTS !! JUST SPENT THE PAST 4 WEEKS WAITING FOR MY PASSPORT AND TS STILL NOT HERE. I HAVE HAD TO CANCEL MY WEDDING !!! - Ginge, london, 16/6/2012 10:43 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why didn't you apply for it earlier then ? People book holidays or weddings months/years in advance but somehow forget the most important piece of documentation until the last minute. Get your priorities right.
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That's the most feeble excuse for poor business performance ever.
- just saying, somewhere up north, 16/6/2012 15:53
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There is of course no connection between this and the massive cuts in IPS staffing in the las few years...
- harryrobb, Edinburgh, 16/6/2012 10:49
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Queen grants William Scotland's top honour to strengthen Royal family's ties north of the border and keep kingdom united

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A pretty badge won't tie him closer to Scotland and it makes no difference to us Scots if he has it. I'm not a republican and I only vote nationalist because the only other choice is labour but I'm getting tired of all this olympic and royal circus. Trying to keep us sweet with little tokens, I'm not impressed. My mum called me unpatriotic! I'm just not interested.
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Surely it's enough of the Royals - I'm sick of seeing this extremely privileged lot.
- Brian Morris, London, 17/6/2012 2:07
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Another meaningless bit of bling from nanny to her little soldier.
- Agent Smith, S.Yorks, 17/6/2012 1:38
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scotland needs their independence jean london
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I've nothing against the man. But Prince William is as disconnected from the average Scot as is the man on the moon. No amount of honorary decorations will change that simple fact.
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I can picture them all celebrating in Glasgow at this news ! What a load of rubbish !
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 Post subject: Re: Mail misreads its public
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:52 pm 
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Can someone pass these comments on to Ian Hislop, only after his near hysterical and deeply uncomfortable rant on the last edition of HIGNFY I think he'd learn a lot of uncomfortable truths about the supposed live he thinks all Brits have for the monarchy. The stupid twanker.

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 Post subject: Re: Mail misreads its public
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:42 pm 
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Can someone pass these comments on to Ian Hislop, only after his near hysterical and deeply uncomfortable rant on the last edition of HIGNFY I think he'd learn a lot of uncomfortable truths about the supposed live he thinks all Brits have for the monarchy. The stupid twanker.

What "near hysterical and deeply uncomfortable rant" was that then? All I heard was him expressing a view I disagree with, nothing which made me uncomfortable and the only hysteria I can see is coming from you. Your obsession with Hislop is becoming alarmingly like the Mail's BBC bashing, when he gives you nothing to complain about, you exaggerate to the point of fabrication or simply make stuff up, just like the Mail.
We all know you don't like him because you mention here it three or four times a week, so as I said to you about your other pet hates, if you don't like them don't watch them because I think it's dragging you down.

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 Post subject: Re: Mail misreads its public
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:25 pm 
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Jesus. You don't think he ranted on far too long and too loudly about it?

That was the point, I wached it (after the fact, I downloaded it and wached it later because people said it was a good one, it was - a good choice of host who presented well, seemed to enjoy herself and was funny).
I found him to be allowed far too much time to go on about it, in a very shouty manner.

Him been a royalist or whatever? I couldn't care less, he can be whatever he likes. It was his means of putting that oppinion across that was irritating, not the oppinion itself.
I thought that was clear.
When he isn't playing to the gallery he seems to be forgetting that the main function of the show is to entertain. Not for him to take over and shout over other people.

To be fair to myself, this is something that several other people have pointed out regarding their views on Hislop, so I cannot see why my thoughts on him keep getting dissected over anyone elses.

There are several people on TV or radio who people here dislike, and they are often refered to by those who hate them in conversations where they are much out of context. My reference to Hislop here was relevant, as the comments in question are just a small sample of the many "bored of royalty" oppinions that his rant seemed to suggest did not exist at the time.

At least there was context in my reference. People often use Littlejohn, Liz Jones, Kelvin MacKenzie, Hitchens and others as a measure of nastiness or annoyance when talking about things they don't like - very often in topics that don't directly relate to the hated person in question.

"Littlejohn would love love that", "don't let Liz Jones hear about those - they are far too cheap for her" and so on, not direct quotes but simmilar in tone to many we've all read.

Nothing wrong with that as far as I can see. What is the difference here?

If you are going to pick me up on what is only my second comment recently regarding Hislop (both of which are related to his recent appearence on a TV show he is in and therefor quite relevant), then you'll have to pick everyone else up on it to - especialy when it is done apropos of nothing as is often the case.
I won't, as I said I don't mind people's repeated mentions of those they don't like. But if you don't like like it, show some consistancy in your remonstrations.

Or alternatively, just skip past my posts - all of them for all I care right now, as no one is forcing you to read what I'm saying it would cause far less disruption to a thread if I didn't have to keep addressing it as if you had no option but to read and respond.

Frankly, I'm fucking bored sick of it. If I were the only one doing it -and really were doing it all the time- then that would be different. But I'm not.

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It appears so. :roll:

Oh dear. :|

:idea: Well she can hate me for a bit. :D

I expect it'll make a nice change from hating people in light entertainment who don't suit her taste.
But other people enjoy.
Which no-one's forcing her to watch anyway. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Mail misreads its public
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When he isn't playing to the gallery he seems to be forgetting that the main function of the show is to entertain. Not for him to take over and shout over other people.


This in-itself could be construed as entertainment ;)
He's public-school/top uni, for sure, and can come across as a bit fuddy-duddy... but you know, Private Eye has consistently highlighted awful behaviour from MPs and Cllrs on all sides, which is shurely the bottom line on the measure of the man?
In the UK, it probably takes a relative Establishment insider to shine the light out from within :o

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When he isn't playing to the gallery he seems to be forgetting that the main function of the show is to entertain. Not for him to take over and shout over other people.


This in-itself could be construed as entertainment ;)
He's public-school/top uni, for sure, and can come across as a bit fuddy-duddy... but you know, Private Eye has consistently highlighted awful behaviour from MPs and Cllrs on all sides, which is shurely the bottom line on the measure of the man?
In the UK, it probably takes a relative Establishment insider to shine the light out from within :o

Agreed.
I believe he's a Tory, but I don't see much evidence of bias. He built his career making satire attacking the Thatcher and Major governments and it seems fair enough that he also targets Labour and other parties. The tendency of the other guests on HIGNFY seems to be left of centre so Hislop provides some balance. His prime targets are sleaze, lies and corruption WHATEVER the source, sometimes he attacks people I like, but that's the price I pay for liking people who are sleazy, corrupt, liars. :D
He's a writer, a satirist and a gag and script writer, and that is where his talent lies rather than off-the-cuff ad-libs like Merton. He's not a comedian or a performer so his contributions to HIGNFY are unsurprisingly not as smooth as the professional stand-ups, that's not his profession. He is the only satirist on HIGNFY, lose him and it would sink to the level of Mock The Week.

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I don't like him. I think he's dishonest, and his anti-establishment stuff is a pose. Private Eye is really about exposing people who aren't 'us'.
But I can live with that if (and it's an important if) he doesn't let this persona thing get in the way of the entertainment. His continual hounding of politicians (both left and right) to the point that the show loses all structure and direction is such a bore. He isn't really much good at it, either, as the occasional Merton withering one-liner shows, barbed humour is more effective than prolonged ranting.


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I don't like him. I think he's dishonest, and his anti-establishment stuff is a pose. Private Eye is really about exposing people who aren't 'us'.

I have no way of knowing if he's dishonest as I don't know what his true beliefs are, I've never seen them stated anywhere.
I've actually just cancelled my sub to Private Eye after 30 years as I'm increasinly finding that it goes into the re-cycling with more and more of it unread. Like most print media, it has been trumped by the internet but I'm glad it exists and I hope it continues. I know it's got some things wrong, but on balance, I see it as a force for good. I disagree with the PLU point, in a word it exposes bullshit. Politicians, journos, companies, unions, left, right and centre - when they fuck up, it points it out.
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But I can live with that if (and it's an important if) he doesn't let this persona thing get in the way of the entertainment. His continual hounding of politicians (both left and right) to the point that the show loses all structure and direction is such a bore. He isn't really much good at it, either, as the occasional Merton withering one-liner shows, barbed humour is more effective than prolonged ranting.

I enjoy them. But then I also enjoy Merton's tangential, surreal monologues which are just as disruptive (and completely OT) but, in my opinion, have provided some of the best moments in the show.

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Hislop makes me cringe when he goes for people who can't really tell him to shut up or go back at him. He is just so convinced of his own immaculacy. After all, he hasn't lost all those libel cases by bad luck, and publishing a book on how MMR was killing kids was just a tiny little bit of an error - caused by his blind cynicism which means that he doubts the motives of anyone other than himself and a few cronies. A little more self-reflection might help him be more amusing.


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