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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:28 pm 
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Sikhs and turbans are long-running sore for the 'I'm not racist but...' types.
In fact, Sikhs are a bit problematic for racists all round.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:29 pm 
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Sikhs and turbans are long-running sore for the 'I'm not racist but...' types.
In fact, Sikhs are a bit problematic for racists all round.

'cos of those small blades that they carry?

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:33 pm 
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Because they look foreign (and are brown jobs), yet are pretty respectable overall, tend to have a great degree of social cohesion and will rip your head off and shove it up your arse if you piss them off.

(I once witnessed some young Sikhs who were looking for one of their own who had absconded with the temple funds. If they had been looking for me I would have located to an alternative galaxy)


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:36 pm 
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Ah, fair enough. I've always felt a little sorry for the Sikhs and Hindus, because they get so much collateral due to the rampant hatred of Asian/Indian peoples.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:47 pm 
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Briefly, yes.
For a number of reasons (safety through to not wanting to appear sectarian) some organisations have a no-symbols policy. More have a no-jewelry policy. As far as I am aware every single case of a Christian being discriminated against has actually been a case of breach of company dress code, or in one case putting a religious symbol in a company vehicle. This is then spun as being anti-Christian, with all sorts of testicular logic being deployed, such as Sikhs being allowed to wear turbans, Muslim women with headscarves, Shamans with necklaces of infants' skulls and so on.

This is what bloody annoys me about these poor-Christians-are-so-persecuted stories. They make out that being required to comply with the rules that everyone else has to comply with is a dreadful imposition, when the reality is that they are screaming for a privilege which, for good reason, no-one else is allowed. They also carry on as if not being able to wear their piece of jewellery in some way attacks and weakens their religion when there is no requirement whatsoever in the Christian religion for wearing crucifixes. Further, if wearing your cross means so much to you, what is wrong with wearing it inside your clothes? It seems to be the ostentatious display of the cross that they want, which doesn't seem massively Christian to me.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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And if there ever is a second coming, surely the last thing Jesus would want to see, is another cross?

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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Sikhs are also extremely flexible and pragmatic with respect to the various strictures of their religion. For example, Sikhism, like Islam, prohibits or at the very least strongly discourages the consumption of alcohol, but virtually all the Sikhs I know drink like bloody fish. A Sikh wedding reception I attended not only had a free bar, but a bottle of whisky and a bottle of vodka on every table, and the bottles were replaced as soon as they were empty, as many of them quickly became. Then there was the crazy bhangra dancing. What a brilliant night that was.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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I once went out of school at lunchtime with a Sikh. He suggested a quick G&T on the way back. Turned out to be a treble, by which time you lose all ability to turn down further drink.

In the end I had to have my lessons covered, go home in a taxi and sleep it off...

But he did make the most amazing curries.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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And if there ever is a second coming, surely the last thing Jesus would want to see, is another cross?



The more evangelical low church protestants are moving back to the fish as their chosen symbol anyway. Partly from anti idolatry, partly because the cross has become a fashion item.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:26 pm 
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Over the heather the wet wind blows,
I've lice in my tunic and a cold in my nose.

The rain comes pattering out of the sky,
I'm a Wall soldier, I don't know why.

The mist creeps over the hard grey stone,
My girl's in Tungria; I sleep alone.

Aulus goes hanging around her place,
I don't like his manners, I don't like his face.

Piso's a Christian, he worships a fish;
There'd be no kissing if he had his wish.

She gave me a ring but I diced it away;
I want my girl and I want my pay.

When I'm a veteran with only one eye
I shall do nothing but look at the sky.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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Comments on the cross in the crematorium story have gone unmoderated. Get stuck in.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ions.html#


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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Edgar Evans, 79, a retired patient advocate for the NHS, said: ‘The window and cross provide comfort for mourners who look at it.

That doesn't sound like a job title that would go down well with Mailites or the TDA.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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2030: The year Britain will cease to be a Christian nation with the march of secularism

Oh for goodness sake.

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2030: The year Britain will cease to be a Christian nation with the march of Islam - Shame on the Government and the Queen for allowing it to happen!
- Jon, Manchester , 2/3/2012 23:22


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 Post subject: Re: The Mail and 'Christianophobia'
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Right at the end of the article they manage to squeeze in this line.

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Despite the rising numbers following Islam, there are still 16 times as many Christians as Muslims

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1o2qdILJA

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