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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:52 am 
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Freedom of speech row over blogger who faces jail for calling councillor a c*** on Twitter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1sCBPEUq4
I wonder how long Dacre would get for his vagina monologues?

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So he's not really 'facing jail' for calling him a cunt, but for the somewhat more serious accusation of posting a picture of the guy's house and telling people to post excrement to him.

Fuck all to do with free speech then.


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Is behaviour seems very similar to that of Richard Littlejohn who stirs up his readers with a tissue of lies and then prints email addresses and phone numbers so readers can send abusive messages or threatening phone calls to the councillor or public official featured in the story.

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I have always wondered why swearing is not classified as free speech but sanctimonious drivel is.

Any clues?

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Outdated laws drafted in a more innocent/hypocritical time.

As an aside, it took me a long time to realise what Viz magazine used to refer to as "sending obscene material through the post" (a regular staple of its spoof tabloid articles) did not refer to pornography, but to excrement. :oops:

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Cunt is not allowed, but slut is okay?


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 Post subject: Re: C***
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Cunt is not allowed, but slut is okay?

I'm very suspicious that the only photo in which the pub name has been altered it has been achieved by masking letters using bin bags. I've never seen vandalism done that way before. I think the reporter and photographer did it themselves.

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Cunt is not allowed, but slut is okay?

I'm very suspicious that the only photo in which the pub name has been altered it has been achieved by masking letters using bin bags. I've never seen vandalism done that way before. I think the reporter and photographer did it themselves.


Yes! Of course those 'protestors' aren't adverse to trying to set fire to the place or smashing it up but when it comes to altering the sign instead of just kicking the letters off or spraying them with the black spray paint they've used elsewhere they decide to do it in such a way that if caught in the act they wouldn't be liable to be charged with criminal damage. Right!

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Carlos The Badger wrote:
oboogie wrote:
ezinra wrote:
Cunt is not allowed, but slut is okay?

I'm very suspicious that the only photo in which the pub name has been altered it has been achieved by masking letters using bin bags. I've never seen vandalism done that way before. I think the reporter and photographer did it themselves.


Yes! Of course those 'protestors' aren't adverse to trying to set fire to the place or smashing it up but when it comes to altering the sign instead of just kicking the letters off or spraying them with the black spray paint they've used elsewhere they decide to do it in such a way that if caught in the act they wouldn't be liable to be charged with criminal damage. Right!

Also setting fire to a pub is an odd way to go about getting it reopened.

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Bit of an aside but I try to reclaim the word cunt for what it is, rather than an insult.

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Bit of an aside but I try to reclaim the word cunt for what it is, rather than an insult.


A friend of mine does that. When I refer to someone as a right cunt, she says "Oi! Useyour own bits as an offensive term, not mine!".

But the bottom line is that there is simply no better sweary word than cunt. Other words - prick, arse, and so on - just don't have the same magic

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I use "cuntybollocks" or "fucksocks", but yes, mostly cunt.


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Abernathy wrote:
storygirl wrote:
Bit of an aside but I try to reclaim the word cunt for what it is, rather than an insult.


A friend of mine does that. When I refer to someone as a right cunt, she says "Oi! Useyour own bits as an offensive term, not mine!".

But the bottom line is that there is simply no better sweary word than cunt. Other words - prick, arse, and so on - just don't have the same magic


As an old work colleague of mine said "You come out of one and spend the rest of your life trying to get back into one."


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davidjay wrote:
Abernathy wrote:
storygirl wrote:
Bit of an aside but I try to reclaim the word cunt for what it is, rather than an insult.


A friend of mine does that. When I refer to someone as a right cunt, she says "Oi! Useyour own bits as an offensive term, not mine!".

But the bottom line is that there is simply no better sweary word than cunt. Other words - prick, arse, and so on - just don't have the same magic


As an old work colleague of mine said "You come out of one and spend the rest of your life trying to get back into one."


That is what really gets to me though, why should a desirable (depending on age gender sexuality yadda yadda) part of a woman be an insult ? I understand that because it is the last taboo word it has a force fiddlesticks does not, but really, why ?

I would love to actually be able to pinpoint when it moved from being the anglo saxon for vagina to being an insult. Whichever way you look at it though it is a misogynistic word to use. When I was at uni the word to use was fascist. Now that's a great swear word.

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I would love to actually be able to pinpoint when it moved from being the anglo saxon for vagina to being an insult.

It was probably always both. 'Cunt' is a powerful obscenity in almost every European tongue. It seems to stem from the stigma around menstruation which is probably older than language.

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Whichever way you look at it though it is a misogynistic word to use. When I was at uni the word to use was fascist. Now that's a great swear word.

I agree. I use 'cunt' myself in both its literal and obscene senses, I think partly because I was always the nice lass who shouldn't, and partly because it reflects the rather ambivalent relationship I have with the old girl down below.

Languages are so thoroughly misogynistic that I find it hard to draw lines. The common-or-garden all-purpose swearword in French is putain (whore), which is gendered of course; con (cunt) is banal, and no more obscene than twat/twit, but a lot more common than rude words relating to the male anatomy. The last taboo in French is probably enculé (literally, 'sodomised person'), which is homophobic more than misogynistic.

The gendered insult I won't use is 'bitch', as a noun. I also don't much like synonyms for 'penetrated' as negative words to describe passivity and powerlessness (fucked, buggered, screwed, etc). That's where I feel the most cognitive dissonance.


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