Yep, I know the Mail is despicable, rabble rousing, racist, homophobic and all the rest, but I viewed with scepticism the claims here and elsewhere that the online version actively censored story comments. "Nobody could be that stupid!" I thought.


Then two things happened. The first was Richard Littlejohn's story about Mile End being a mono-cultural muslim no-go area.

Now, Littlejohn lives in a high-security gated community in Florida so I can excuse his ignorance, but when I posted a comment on the story that I live near Mile End, Mile End is full of pubs, nightclubs , a cinema, a university and a hospital and is most certainly NOT a "no-go" area, my comment didn't make it through. What does Littlejohn think happens? Does the tube driver announce "Mile Emd station! Muslims only alight here"?

It's their website, fair enough. They are entitled to print vile racist bollocks if they want.


But then this story appeared:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

and the moderators of the Daily Mail online comments section allowed this post to be published:

"Having lived in South East London I can tell you that there is still a very high resentment against the perception of what led to Steven Lawrence's death.

Those of us who lived in the area at the time remain convinced that it was not a racially motivated killing.

That the centre was damaged is of no connection to racism. It is based in an area that is 90% black. Hardly likely that white youths would travel to that area at all, let alone to damage a building about something that happened years ago."

- Dr T Gibbons, London



Now, Stephen Lawrence bled to death after being chased by some white youths who shaouted "What, nigger!" at him and stabbing him. The murder was racist, there is no doubt.

Plus, Deptford's population is barely 53% black, according to the latest census.

I posted to rebut "Dr Gibbons" falsehoods.


Guess what?

Nothing appeared.


So The Mail, for all their posturing in the Lawrence case, allow untruths to be published about the manner of Stephen Lawrence's death and the area in which it took place.

Two seperate articles in The Mail gave utterly false impressions on serious, inflammatory subjects.

Sorry for doubting you.


Keep up the good work.

Just for some context, when how/did you doubt us?
Since this is your first post I suspect it was on the front page section of the site but I can't really be arsed searching.


Don't feed bad. The Mail really are very good at what they do, that's how they keep 2.5 million people hooked every day.
I've been here for many months and there have been a couple of times when I've thought "you know, the mail isn't so bad", then they've printed another hate-filled crock of shit and I suddenly lose that thought.

Also, there are a few that have attacked this site and it's members over time - mostly with flawed logic and wild assumptions. However you're the first I've seen that's come out and said "I was wrong, I'm sorry". Don't worry about it

Welcome to the forum, the mail website is just as bad as the paper itself as they allow their numskull readers to comment on every story, well nearly every story

Well, I've been lurking for a while and read somewhere, (I forget where, sorry, but it included a link to the Mail comments board itself where people made the same complaint about only posts that agree with the editorial policy get through) .


I doubted this, plus I was outraged by Littledick's piece, he's basically slagging off my part of London and talking utter, utter crap to boot.


How many boozers do you reckon there'd be in a "muslim no-go areas, FFS?

The Lawrence quotes are even worse, the Mail is lying about a racist murder, or allowing others' lies to be published.


I doubt the "doctor" is a doctor, and I bet he's never been anywhere near Deptford.

Re: the original comment of it being a 90% black area so white youths won't go there, oh yes because white yobs never spoil for a fight do they, presumably it's those cunning darkies trying to make the good white people look bad?

Exactly. The whole tenor of those Lawrence quotes is despicable, evasive and speculatory.

And it isn't nor ever has been "90% black".

Even if it were 90% black, I'm pretty sure it would require less than than 10% of the population to throw some bricks. It's not that labour-intensive an operation, is it?

Can anywhere be acurately described as 90% black? I doubt there are enough black people in the country for that. Of couse I live in South East London so I am probably not qualified to comment. What would I know about it!?

I think what our friend means by 90% is just "too many".

I wonder if 'Dr T Gibbons' is any relation to this 'T Gibbons', who manages to rape a messageboard about pedestrianisation (livingstreets.org.uk) with some anti-Muslim rubbish:

T. Gibbons
Thursday 16 August 2007
private person What will the Conservative Party do to solve the problem of the slow islamization of Britain. Will you deny it exists or will you be honest, as your shadow minister of defence is and face it head on. Britain needs a party free of PC, lefties dhimmies who give extra freedom to Muslims at the cost of reducing our own freedom and future liberty. If you can promise to take a hard stand to set this situation right; to return Britain to the British you will certainly get my vote and complete support. I am not racist but am concerned about how my wonderful country is slowly slipping into the hands of sharia politics. your sincerely T. Gibbons

A beautiful 'I am not racist but...' - textbook.

To be honest, I'm not racist and I don't want sharia law.

T gibbons there, "Dr" T Gibbons on the Mail website...


Classic ignorant DM behaviour, express outrage at summat that isn't happening. Muslims don't have "extra" freedoms, Christmas wasn't renamed "winterval" hot cross buns weren't banned , T Gibbons is a barking mad right wing racist twonk.

Isn't he also making the assumption that Muslims can't also be British in his little 'them and us' rant?

You mean 1 of them?

My thread on This Is London was deleted and I'm banned:

http://chat.thisislondon.co.uk/london/t ... ge=1164525

To: sallygee1@live.co.uk Subject: This is London Messageboards Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:49:53 +0100 From: moderation@thisislondon.co.uk

Your message titled Media Bias has been edited in accordance with the Community Guidelines which state: Do not post comments which are likely to incite religious or racial intolerance of any sort. Your account has now been permanently de-activated. You are no longer allowed to post to any ANM message boards/participate in any ANM chat rooms, using this or any other username. Please be advised that should you post/enter live chat again, we reserve the right to contact your ISP/employer.

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Community Team

Sorry there seems to be some misunderstanding, you were banned for stirring up hatred on the messageboards and not respecting spirit and tone, it was in fact you started up the thread: Johnson and Islamaphobia .

.

Kind regards

Tessa Batacharia Senior Communities Editor

My reply:

"Stirring up hatred"? By quoting Boris Johnson's own words? Here's a reader's response: "What a cracking series of arguments!! I've enjoyed reading all of the above "

End quote.

You allowed posts that claimed Livingstone was anti-semitic (spirit and tone a moveable feast, it seems) , then ban someone who highlights the real racism exhibited by Johnson!

Rank hypocrisy, you would think "Have Your Say" ought to be modified to "Agree with the Standard here".

You then allow racist posts on your "Have Your Say" pages and delete comments that do not toe the editorial line and claim it's "racist" to quote Boris Johnson's words in full.



Bravo.

The truth frequently offends.