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Re: THE MAIL VERSUS SOCIAL WORKERS

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:24 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:45 am 
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Journalists. Scum of the earth, just like bankers, lawyers and frequently, social workers.
- Harry, Tavistock, 7/7/2011 1:44


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:30 pm 
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Parents of seven told: Your children are too fat, so you will never see them again

Kind of a top trumps situation here - Social workers Vs Fat People Vs Human Rights Vs Chavs?

Something tells me there more to this than the Mail's letting on.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:39 pm 
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Something tells me there more to this than the Mail's letting on.


Any time the story involves kids and their possible or actual 'removal' from their families, on whatever grounds, you can be absolutely 110% certain there is a LOT more to it than the Mail lets on. And you can also be sure, as is the Mail, that we will never hear the other side of the story. Ergo it can be massaged into fodder for the hard of understanding.


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It would seem to be unlikely that the kids are being taken away forever, for a start.


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Disgusting - sounds like the council has already irreparably damaged this family and is intent on finishing the job. Trying to meet their quotas no doubt.
- Claire, London, 4/9/2011 20:49


The quota of taking kids into care.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:59 am 
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Something tells me there more to this than the Mail's letting on.


Any time the story involves kids and their possible or actual 'removal' from their families, on whatever grounds, you can be absolutely 110% certain there is a LOT more to it than the Mail lets on. And you can also be sure, as is the Mail, that we will never hear the other side of the story. Ergo it can be massaged into fodder for the hard of understanding.


You can never hear the other side of the story; social services are not allowed to tell it, and unlike the Mail they tend to take the confidentiality of their clients seriously. The Mail can't lose...

What is quite clear is that three years ago there was a case conference at which a report on the family was presented. A written copy of that report was given to the parents and they have now passed that report on to the Mail. That in itself should trigger further social services investigation and action.

There is also a reference to 'low-grade parenting issues'. In cases like these you can usually discount the ameliorating adjective, so there have been parenting issues including suspected assault. Social services have spent a great deal of time and money addressing these issues (no-one gets put into a 'big-brother house' (ffs) for minor problems). And it seems that food abuse was not the issue which led to that extremely unusual step - whatever it means.

In other words, a pack of lies, written to wind up the Mailies into an anti-social services wankfest. Until the next time they actually want social services to deal with some difficult and subtle social problem with the general approach of a Hanna Barbera cartoon...

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I knew it! Nurses last week, it's almost always social workers the following week. It'll be teachers next indoctrinating kids with evil liberal ideas.


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Cleggeron's just said we mustn't denigrate teachers, so it's bound to be.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... fears.html

Whoops! Either social services or the Mail are not being very consistent here. I know who my money's on.

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Dacre Bleugh wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222044/23st-mothers-newborn-girl-taken-care-obesity-fears.html

Whoops! Either social services or the Mail are not being very consistent here. I know who my money's on.


I thought I recognised that picture.

From yesterday's MoS

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... again.html

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
It would seem to be unlikely that the kids are being taken away forever, for a start.


Yeah, those vans have a maximum axle loading...


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... orror.html
Social worker, 45, jailed for nine years after subjecting his own stepchildren to a DECADE of abuse

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Let this be a warning to everybody USELESS SOCIAL SERVICES BOX TICKERS have the same dynamics as the people they sit in judgement on they / lie / they steal throwing sickies /drink / drugs / adultry /the list goes on ,do not trust then

- Duncan Morrison, Isle of Man, 4/4/2012 15:16

All social workers are identical.

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I'm surprised he wasn't promoted. Abuse of the Human Rights of others appears to be a trait in that profession. I have a digital recording of a Social Services manager in a Stage 3 complaint meeting claiming that the Social Services do not have to obey the Human Rights Acts. Strange but true.

- Mr Average., Here and there, 4/4/2012 15:14

Hmm. A recording, eh? And yes, the people who deal with societies problems don't give a fuck about people, do they? :roll:


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That is one of the reasons why torture and capital punishment should be brought back. He should be tortured the same way and 3 times harder for the next 10 years!

- Ouraged Mother, Essex, 4/4/2012 14:46

Classic Mailite thinking. Let's deal with barbarism with extreme barbarism.


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I hope he dies a slow and painful death

- rlev1981, rip off Britain, 4/4/2012 14:20

No need to be shy, spit it out. Oh, hang on.

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That is how social services recruit, through the personal problems their own staff have faced. Lindsay had been abused as a child, therefore that would entitle him to a job of social worker youth worker, no question of how screwed up he may be. In social service senior management eyes his own experiences give him a right for a job with them as often the managers don't have a clue about social work,they just like the attendingt meetings to arrange meetings with very little work done by themselves. A radical change is needed to ensure so called social workers UNDERSTAND about people's needs and NOT this ridiculous university training where you need to express your feelings about your own problems, whereby you are taught that through those feelings you can understand the problems of the community at large, they need training IN THE UNIVERSITY OF LIFE, this needs to happen soon.

- Holden, Thailand, 4/4/2012 14:25

Ignoring Holden's shite grasp of empathy and identification it is good to know that he has the solution. Stop training professionals (who are already entitled to the job by dint of being screwed up anyway) and go back to good old common sense. He didn't get to be both living in Thailand and harbouring a grudge against social workers without learning a thing or two along the way you know.







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what possesses someone to jump on a child?!

- fairycakes, neverland, 4/4/2012 14:31

Jumping on people is wrong.

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At least he will get an undersstanding of what it feels like to be a victim stamped on and bullied for the next nine years.

- Grumpy Grandpa, Livingston, 4/4/2012 14:26

Jumping on people can be desirable.


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Gosh, imagine a line of work that employed people who drink, don't always tell the truth, and sleep with folk they're not married to. The consequences must be unthinkable.

Holden's comment is a Mail classic. It's extra bizarre since he criticises social services for employing people on the basis of their life experience, and then goes on to dismiss academic qualifications in favour of the University of Life. Obviously he means the University of Holden's Life, rather than anyone else's.


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I have a funny feeling Holden isn't in Thailand to wander thoughtfully through ancient ruins.


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