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Re: The French Presidential Election

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 pm 
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The Gard looks like it will be the first department ever to put the FN in first place. It's not exactly a surprise: the Gard has more than its share of retired people, pieds-noirs, small-town family businesses and artisans, all constituencies for Le Pen. It also has a lot of immigrants from the Maghreb, some of them undocumented (who do much of the seasonal agricultural labour and are paid au noir), and the biggest population of Gypsies in France, concentrated around the pilgrimage site of the black virgin at Les Saintes Marie de la Mer. The FN has put up its highest scores here and in nearby small towns such as Beaucaire and Saint-Gilles: these are working-class areas of light industry, often heavily dependent on a single employer (the Perrier factory is in Vergèzes and Haribo in Uzès) which have been hit by the délocalisation of small-scale manufacturing to eastern Europe and the Far East.

A generation ago, the Gard and especially its chef-lieu, Nîmes, were a cornerstone of the communist vote. Much of the population is descended from Spanish and Italian migrants who left during the Mussolini and Franco years; Nîmes had a communist mayor for 25 years between 1965 and 2001. That vote has collapsed: although Nîmes just about opted for Hollande yesterday, Mélenchon scored only 13%, which is barely above his national average. It seems that many voters who backed the communist party while they were of working age have switched to the FN since they retired or were made redundant. The threat to pensions is seen as double — from the liberalising right wing and a 'wave' of immigrants putting pressure on the public purse, encouraged by the left — and the FN appears as the party most likely to protect them.


I've copied your post over to WSC where they were talking about Gard. Hope you don't mind.


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The ghost of Tony Blair has entered the campaign. In the televised debate, Sarkozy defended his foreign policy by stating that it was unthinkable for France to negotiate with people (ie, the Taliban) who cut the hands off young girls for wearing make-up. This assertion about the Taliban originated in Blair's dodgy dossier. It has repeatedly been debunked, but lives on in the media and on discussion boards as well as in the Elysée palace. Call it Blair's drip.

It's also a bit hypocritical coming from the man who has made it a criminal offence for women to wear a particular type of clothing in France, but lies, distortion and hypocrisy are what we've come to expect over the five years of his presidency.


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:32 am 
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RE: Pieds-Noirs

Fascinating to think a film like Battle of Algiers still haunts France. But then, If... in this country is arguably still just as relevent, especially given all the O.E.s we have on top now.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:01 am 
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Giant f*cking Sudoku wrote:
RE: Pieds-Noirs

Fascinating to think a film like Battle of Algiers still haunts France. But then, If... in this country is arguably still just as relevent, especially given all the O.E.s we have on top now.


What's O.E. ?


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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:03 am 
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/inte ... 205045194/

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Bones McCoy wrote:
Giant f*cking Sudoku wrote:
RE: Pieds-Noirs

Fascinating to think a film like Battle of Algiers still haunts France. But then, If... in this country is arguably still just as relevent, especially given all the O.E.s we have on top now.


What's O.E. ?

Old Etonians

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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/french-presidential-candidates-begin-smoke%11%C2%ADoff-201205045194/

:lol:


Racist stereotypes still abound, then?

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Giant f*cking Sudoku wrote:
RE: Pieds-Noirs

Fascinating to think a film like Battle of Algiers still haunts France. But then, If... in this country is arguably still just as relevent, especially given all the O.E.s we have on top now.


If.... was filmed at my old school. We're very second division.

Chris Bryant is the most high profile politician to have gone there.


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:34 pm 
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ezinra wrote:
It's also a bit hypocritical coming from the man who has made it a criminal offence for women to wear a particular type of clothing in France, but lies, distortion and hypocrisy are what we've come to expect over the five years of his presidency.


And a law he has no intention of enforcing when Saudis turn up with their wives to buy perfume.


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Hollande on 52%, according to the first projection.

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Raising an uncharacteristic glass of a rather nice St Emilion in celebration...

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:22 pm 
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My father will be doing something similar. I'm off for a German lager, but I shall be raising it to comrades across the Channel. :-)Is the tide really turning? (politically I mean, not the tides of the Channel)?

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Self-aggrandising speech from Sarkozy.

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C'est la fin de Sarkozy...

C'est triste, non?


Non.


(Après moi les Tories)

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:40 pm 
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Hollande will probably row back on the 75% top rate tax. I've not too much problem with that because he can use it politically to say "I gave way to you on this, now fuck off" and bring in bigger reforms.


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