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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:07 pm 
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
How much canvassing and leafletting did UKIP do in the latest elections? How much did you personally do?
I've travelled 1500 miles over the last two weeks and helped deliver around 20,000 leaflets. I've been to 5 public meetings. I've been involved in a few street canvassing sessions. Personally I've been going 10 hours a day for 2 weeks. Couple of 4am starts, couple of 5am starts.

The party effort on the whole isn't really as you describe it. You'll find if you drill-down you'd see a lot in common with the techniques used by the lib-dems to boost votes for a small party. It's fair to say we still have plenty of dusty old cranks within the ranks who never deliver or canvass and really just cause us to lose votes with their cranky opinions. But in the last few years the party has professionalised and that's starting to come through in the polls.

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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:16 pm 
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Bones McCoy wrote:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139218/Local-elections-2012-Bloody-nose-David-Cameron-Labour-course-gain-700-seats.html#comments

Kippers out in force on the top comments.

Their conclusions:
* Unrepresentative col Labour didn't get 50% of everybody's vote.
* Electorate are a bunch of sheeple and unable to perceive UKIP's utter brilliance.
* Same old 3 parties, there is only one alternative.


Why do DM readers love the UKIP? :!:


Or: Why do UKIP Supporters spam Mailonline on selected topics?


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I will not vote Tory again until they agree to let the people have a say in the future of this country regarding the complete capitulation to Europe. If that means voting Ukip then so be it.
- chaz, nottingham, 4/5/2012 18:51


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Have a look at some of Nigel Farage's speeches online, will only take a few minutes. This is the man that the BBC and the newspapers are trying to hide from us. We are having the wool pulled over our eyes big time.
- Ben, Oxford, 4/5/2012 18:46


Are you trying to say it's a conspiricy? That UKIP voters don't really exist and that it's maybe one or two UKIP people contributing to the comments section on the DM website?

The UKIP message, against the old failed parties has resonance with the public. The old failed parties boost our vote by playing up to the criticism.

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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:18 pm 
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Two weeks. A whole two weeks?


Says it all. UKIP is an astroturf group representing some old-fashioned right-wing ideas and a privilege agenda.


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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:27 pm 
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Yeah. I dream of being able to run a two week election campaign.

To get our Labour candidate elected, we've been campaigning intensively since last September. But that is no more than par for the course, and what it takes to get serious candidates elected.
Emmett on the other hand, is trying to impress us with his personal contribution to UKIP fuckwittery in very much the same way as he previously thought we'd be impressed that he has a Saab.

Sorry Emmett, but I'm desperately underwhelmed.

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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:38 pm 
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I think we started doing our canvassing as early as last August..... Seriously. This is the first Saturday I haven't been on contact creator.


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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:59 pm 
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We were given a briefing on why our local Lib Dem MP was so successful, he was seen to be doing four nights a week for over three years, either canvassing or meetings, before he was elected. Many thousands of hours, many column inches, running marathons for charity, taking up (and succeeding) on local issues. It has to be obsessional to work. We've been pushing hard for the last six months.


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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:08 am 
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Emmett Jenner wrote:
I really genuinely believe the old parties spend a lot of time doing the opposite of what people want.


So you counter that by supporting a party that supports something you don't want.

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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
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Nicked from Survation:
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William Hague - really?

Johnson comes top amongst all voters, not just Conservative voters. That doesn't mean that they'd necessarily vote for him, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:57 am 
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Hague I suppose is the #1 choice by matter of elimination. This Tory party is absolutely devoid of talent beyond Cameron's ability to throw PR spin into everything he says. Boris could be the Tories' own worst enemy - his personable bullshit might pass in the limited confines of London's mayoral scene, and even works to his favour; but in a national level he'd be a constant humiliation to the party.

Still, I'm very glad these sorts of questions are being asked. The vultures are circling, Dave...


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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:03 am 
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The vultures are circling


What? In the conservative party?

Whatever next.....

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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:42 am 
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The Tories like winners and Boris is the only Tory winner at the moment. By the same token they don't like losers and are very quick to ditch unsuccessful leaders. Hague lost an election so I find it hard to credit that they'd go for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:33 am 
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Winegums wrote:
Boris could be the Tories' own worst enemy - his personable bullshit might pass in the limited confines of London's mayoral scene, and even works to his favour; but in a national level he'd be a constant humiliation to the party.

This is bad how? :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:34 am 
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His approval rating is -32 nationally...


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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:32 am 
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Who the fuck would have chosen Jeremy Hunt? And are these people aware that Boris Johnson is not an MP, and has just been re-elected as Mayor of London? He's not going to leave that a few weeks later.

Ohhh...these people voted Conservative. That explains a lot :D


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 Post subject: Re: Local election results
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:44 am 
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Yup.
Though Boris could, we are told, be an MP and continue as Mayor.

It makes sense that some Tory in a safe seat toddles off to the Lords via the Chiltern Hundreds, Boris is parachuted in to much joylode in the popperlace and inna trice the PCP gives Cameron a glass of whiskey and the Anthony Eden Memorial Webley and show him the French doors.


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