Nicely written. Agree with just about all of it , but not sure I could be arsed even going to stand on the route of her funeral cortege.

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yeah, great. No lessons learned. Let’s give Keynesian economics another try, this time I'm sure it will work. Let’s make sure nobody has any more than anyone else, I'm sure that this time things will be different and it will make the economy grow to pay for utopia. Let's forget about trading with the world and instead we'll build tractors for the internal market. We'll make sure every child lives the code of sacrifice, united we stand, brother let me bleed for you.

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"Emmett is able to write fairly well, he clearly isn't unintelligent overall" - Quote MALCO - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:57 pm

The present economic answers are working so well, aren't they?

You know the definition of a fanatic - one who redoubles his efforts as he loses sight of his aims - well the same can be said of people who lose sight of the fact that the answer in which they have invested so much (usually because it's the only one they understand) doesn't pay off.

An intelligent person would be looking to see what works, rather than bend the facts to fit their obsessions. And having some very strange concept of what Keynesian economics actually are.

Happy new year, Emble. Hope the car valeting goes well, and the campaign for compulsory passive smoking.

When did I say I thought I knew what Keynesian economics were? All I said was that as far as I can see whenever people have practiced those principles they have failed. So is now really the time to redouble efforts in spite of this?

No. I'm not a tory so I’m totally free to agree with you on these sorts of matters. I have no tribal devotion to that cause and would not defend their way just because it is different to your way. Present economic answers are wrong and have failed. I can assure you though; the answer is not state ownership of the means of production or any of that similar twaddle. That is the other end of the same shitty stick.

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"Emmett is able to write fairly well, he clearly isn't unintelligent overall" - Quote MALCO - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:57 pm

If you are admitting you don't really know what Keynesian ecconomics where then how can you say that "whenever people have practiced those principles they have failed".

As for this nonsense about "state ownership of the means of production", are you aware of the concept of the 'false dichotomy logical fallacy'.

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That's not the point. The point is malco's criticism of my 'piece' hinged on the basis that I had misunderstood Keynesian economics. Malco also says we aren't following those principles currently. I think in a roundabout sort of way we're beginning to understand what's going on here.

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"Emmett is able to write fairly well, he clearly isn't unintelligent overall" - Quote MALCO - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:57 pm

I'm glad you are, because your circular arguments are a little dense for my taste.

you started it, stupid...

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"Emmett is able to write fairly well, he clearly isn't unintelligent overall" - Quote MALCO - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:57 pm

Answering your post is 'starting it'?

Jeebus, you're thick as a plank...

That depends on whether you simply agree with me, decide to call me stupid (which is what you usually do) or if you try to present a reasoned counterargument.

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"Emmett is able to write fairly well, he clearly isn't unintelligent overall" - Quote MALCO - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:57 pm

Well done, Moonie. Nothing tribal about you.

You're applauding a man who is standing for parliament, who decries Keynesian economics and then admits he doesn't know anything about them.

Worth a round of applause, that.

I'm sure he means you, idiot!

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"Emmett is able to write fairly well, he clearly isn't unintelligent overall" - Quote MALCO - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:57 pm

Emmett, if you go to a doctor when you're not well and after a course of treatment you get worse and he says "I think you should try more of the same. There's an alternative treatment, but I don't understand it - but I'm certain it doesn't work!", would you think he's a bit of an arse, perchance?

So the only alternative to Thatcherism is Keynsianism, is it?

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