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 Post subject: Re: The Budget.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:15 pm 
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When Osborne talked about borrowing our way into this mess it's worth remembering this video:




according to the IMF the reason the UK has experienced a large build up in public debt is because of the costs of the large loss of output following the crisis. Not quite the story of public sector profligacy the government is usually so keen to tell.

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2011/10/19040/

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 Post subject: Re: The Budget.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:07 pm 
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Only one newspaper this morning comes out with any support for the Chancellor on the front page, this is the Star. Which squeezes it in on one side deeming it less important that some celebrity gossip nonsense or other.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/gallery ... 25&index=7

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:24 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:59 pm 
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I see the Evening Standard are trying to do a bit of damage limitation on the granny tax, even though it's taking a beating in the other right-leaning papers. They're not quite so keen on the stamp duty hike though, it would seem.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/lond ... 81743.html

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If David Cameron has any regrets about economic policy in the past couple of years it may be a nagging suspicion that he and his Chancellor, George Osborne, have been too kind to pensioners. The austerity programme that has been the coalition Government’s hallmark since it came to office has been more even-handed in dishing out the pain than it gets credit for. It is not the rich who have got off lightly because in total they are paying a lot more in tax than they were a few years ago in spite of perceptions to the contrary. Rather the Government has been softest on those at or close to retirement.


For all the talk of the rich apparently paying more tax as a result of this Budget, I've not heard too many complaints from them today. Funny, because the bleating about the 50% rate was relentless even though we're led to believe none of them pay it anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: The Budget.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:49 pm 
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The sad thing about this Budget is that the government seems too much wedded to the austerity agenda. Of course we need to tackle the deficit left by Labour, but surely there are better ways to deal with it then this. One can only accept that this self-imposed policy will lead to higher unemployment, greater inequality and mass social unrest. Don't be surprised if it all comes to a head during the Olympics this summer.


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 Post subject: Re: The Budget.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:58 pm 
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new puritan wrote:
I see the Evening Standard are trying to do a bit of damage limitation on the granny tax, even though it's taking a beating in the other right-leaning papers. They're not quite so keen on the stamp duty hike though, it would seem.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/lond ... 81743.html

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If David Cameron has any regrets about economic policy in the past couple of years it may be a nagging suspicion that he and his Chancellor, George Osborne, have been too kind to pensioners. The austerity programme that has been the coalition Government’s hallmark since it came to office has been more even-handed in dishing out the pain than it gets credit for. It is not the rich who have got off lightly because in total they are paying a lot more in tax than they were a few years ago in spite of perceptions to the contrary. Rather the Government has been softest on those at or close to retirement.


For all the talk of the rich apparently paying more tax as a result of this Budget, I've not heard too many complaints from them today. Funny, because the bleating about the 50% rate was relentless even though we're led to believe none of them pay it anyway.


The Standard has a point about pensioners having done relatively well before.

Even some in the Telegraph have noticed that super-rich pushing up house prices isn't good for everyone. The Telegraph at least has pretensions to represent the wider conservative public, not just rich commuters, like The Standard.

The figures about the low take from the 50p rate are a bit of a wheeze. Loads of income was brought forward to when it was still 40p. You can only do that one, so keep the tax at that high level and you should get more coming in. So they cut in, and income gets deferred to when the rate is 45p. So it looks like loads of people who weren't working/ paying tax at 50p are happy to do so at 45p. They might defer a bit more then, till it's 40p.

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Excellent blog

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Tories attack Osborne over 'inept' Budget

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 84110.html

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:31 am 
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Have you seen this explanation of the process by which items end up in the budget?


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 Post subject: Re: The Budget.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:40 am 
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Couple of Cornish LibDems getting worried about what the pie-tax will do to the pasty trade.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17486692

Also Radio 4 are reporting that the drinks industry are mounting a challenge to the 40p per unit tax as they reckon it breaks EU competition law.

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Same thing happening in Scotland- planned minimum price and threatened legal action.


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 Post subject: Re: The Budget.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:55 am 
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The Mailities heads will explode if their cheap booze is saved by the EU CommieNazis.

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They'd have a point, I think.

The EU needs standards and rules so it isn't just a race to the bottom. But a minimum price?


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I can't see how it'd affect competition as it'd be a minimum price for everyone.

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 Post subject: Re: The Budget.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:13 pm 
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Althea wrote:
I can't see how it'd affect competition as it'd be a minimum price for everyone.

There are laws against price fixing to protect the consumer by preventing rival companies from getting together and agreeing not to undercut each other.
The theory of competition is that the company which provides the consumer with the most attractive offering (including price) will be the most successful. According to the theory this is beneficial to the consumer as they will get the best product.

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