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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:47 pm 
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As a friend of mine once gloriously mangled when drunk, "give 'em enough rope and they'll dig their own graves!".


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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:42 pm 
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Please read this blog

http://scruffymutt.posterous.com/how-to ... ood-reason

and then the 'story' linked from it.

And see how our brave, glorious, well regulated press behaves...

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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:18 pm 
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Well worth a read:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgr ... CMP=twt_fd

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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:32 pm 
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The book itself should be too.

Thanks for the link.


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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:31 pm 
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This is a good, hard but generally sympathetic, critique of journalism and editorial policy at the Guardian:

http://moronwatch.net/2011/11/the-guard ... g-ups.html

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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
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Weeeeell…

The Guardian op-ed is indeed terrible, it's the kind of unsubstantiated hyperbolic rant I'd expect to find in the Mail. But I don't think the Guardian does have an "anti-sex" stance: in fact, it's one of the few mainstream media that seems aware of the feminist debate about sex work, and I find it has commissioned interesting people to discuss it, from both fun-feminist and more radical 'pro-sex' voices to a male porn actor to a male radical feminist. The CiF comments, obviously, read like the transcript of an ill-tempered Fathers 4 Justice meeting, but is that the Guardian's fault?

Moronwatch is guilty of some dubious shortcuts, too, in the article you linked. The liberal/conservative dichotomy is rather facile. I dislike and disagree with the 'new puritans' bit: I've never detected any common ground between radical feminists and the abstinence wing of organised religion. The research about porn quoted by the author all centres on its effect on men and on incidents — especially the (very dodgy Washington Post) figures for rape. It doesn't take into account the cumulative impact of ubiquitous pornifying objectification on women. Moreover, the author talks of "strippers who are defending themselves against campaigners who threaten their right to work in the London boroughs of Hackney and Tower Hamlets". The aim of the campaign, in fact, is to have lap dancing venues classified as part of the sex industry, thus requiring a different licence from an ordinary bar or nightclub. It's quite a stretch to claim that the strippers' "right to work" is threatened by this; it's more about the owners' right to pay less for their licence.


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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
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Alistair Campbell has been called to give evidence at Leveson, and has some comments on the nature of the press, and specifically the Mail, in his blog today:

http://www.alastaircampbell.org/blog/20 ... n-inquiry/
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This paper has for too long been a thoroughly damaging influence on British life, politics and culture. If left unchecked it will also erode standards in Irish journalism and society as it feeds on its readers’ insecurities and promotes Dacre’s bitter and twisted, narrow-minded, non-inclusive, conservative agenda.

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Excellent analysis of media techniques regarding quotes and cutaways in television.

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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:28 pm 
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An example of how the Mail works, and a note on its agenda:

http://www.leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ ... be-fought/

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/video/201 ... tice-video

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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
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An interesting side-note on the concept that journalists, tending to be Arts Degree types are spectacularly unsuited to reporting on science or technology (the Humphrys Effect) this Tweet from a Beeb journo on the Higgs Boson press conference at CERN:

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Digesting #Higgs Boson info. Anyone got a nice analogy for me? Particle physics not my strong point. I was good at English at school! #CERN


Like, the BBC couldn't find a physicist? Imagine what it's like in the pared down newsrooms of Wapping, Dacre's Acres and Desmond Towers...

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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:56 pm 
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
An interesting side-note on the concept that journalists, tending to be Arts Degree types are spectacularly unsuited to reporting on science or technology (the Humphrys Effect) this Tweet from a Beeb journo on the Higgs Boson press conference at CERN:

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Digesting #Higgs Boson info. Anyone got a nice analogy for me? Particle physics not my strong point. I was good at English at school! #CERN


Like, the BBC couldn't find a physicist? Imagine what it's like in the pared down newsrooms of Wapping, Dacre's Acres and Desmond Towers...



I'm tempted to offer a crap analogy. (Does that mapke me a crapanologist)

It's a particle, imagine a ping-pong ball but very small.
Except that it gleues the universe together, so it's sticky.
Imagine a ping pong ball from a Thai entertainment club.


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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
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That image will haunt me...

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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
That image will haunt me...


But you have to imagine 2 of them - both accelerated to near terminal velocity colliding in a cloud chamber.


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 Post subject: Re: The Nature of Journalism and Journalists
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Easy: you have to imagine two incredibly muscular Thai pingpong ball specialists duelling from on raised stage to another across a smoky bar. Until one praeternaturally fast pingpong ball is heading straight for another..........

Or is that a nuclear reactor? I dunno, I studied English at university too. Uninteresting Fact: Paul Dacre had been on the Leeds Student paper five years before I got there.


More to the point:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... servatives


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