Is there any evidence that WATB has ever done anything outside of his bedroom? Attended any demos or flashmobs? Fought in Special Forces? Been invited to the House of Lords to impart his knowledge and wisdom on radical Islam?

Or just spewed out clichéd insults on the internet?

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Where there is great doubt, there will be great awakening; small doubt, small awakening, no doubt, no awakening.

This guy makes a point (Guardian comments)



Tongue in cheek comment but...

When I was their age I was busy watching Botham and Willis demolish the Aussies.
Brixton had gone up in smoke, Toxteth was kicking off and there were numerous little scuffles between NF fanboys and their opponents in smaller neighborhoods.

Rumour was that the Loughton and Grange Hill skins were going to come down our way and kick the shit out of the Jews.
My mate Dave had come round and we were ready for a phonecall to summon us to any flashpoint.
This had the potential to be a major ruck, we were nervous,and had the test on the radio to kill time.
Botham scored some quick runs with Dilley, then Willis and Botham started taking wickets.

We flicked on the TV, the streets were as empty as a Cup Final.
Neither side mobilised being too glued to the telly.

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Where there is great doubt, there will be great awakening; small doubt, small awakening, no doubt, no awakening.

Chief Constable of West Midlands Police coming across as a complete tool on Midlands Today. Decided patronisation was the best form of defence when criticised for their tactics suggesting to the presenter he knows more than "you in your office" and refused to discuss the government's police cuts despite those being the major issue of the day in Westminster.

The riots lasted days, but some people were caught quickly. There are more examples here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-mum.html

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Sick Left-wing Zealot.

And how long did Diana-mania last? It's still going on for some people...

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Ten seconds... the pain begins.

Fifteen seconds... you can't breathe.

Twenty seconds... you give up and turn off the Jeremy Vine show.

I think he once tried to organise a demo outside a police station to try and get charges against one of his "political prisoner" mates dropped. This was his 'mate' in question: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/01/471527.html

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"You may have heard the phrase, 'The flap of a butterfly's wings in Brazil sets off a tornado in Texas.' Well, try this: 'The lies of a newspaper in London can get a bloke's head caved in down an alley in Bradford.' Richard Peppiatt

Swift justice is bollocks justice. Already yielded a 6 month sentence for pinching a bottle of water from Lidl compared with 10 weeks for a 46 year old assaulting a police officer.

People being spotted doing one offence and sentenced. They then turn up somewhere else and we have to it all again.

Those penpushers in the backroom are identifying suspects. I thought they were all diversity officers.

No need for people identifying criminals or anything like that. Sack them and replace them with blokes walking up and down middle class streets all day.

Fortunately, there's some sensible comment from America as well...

Peter Oborne: The moral decay of our society is as bad at the top as the bottom

Infographic: social deprivation in riot hotspots

English riots: rejecting a moral debate - the rationality of violence

Agreed.

The problem there is that someone from the EDL/BNP could used the same excuse ("I was swept away by the mob").

It is an argument I don't buy because we are, well, responsible for ourselves and ourselves only.

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You may say I'm a dreamer.... but I'm not the only one....

I think the issue I have with the "right" is they really don't want discussion. They want to bully those who disagree with them into silence (Oh Mel.... how your headline has come back to haunt you).

I see the robbers as being little shits motivated by greed. That said why are they greedy? Well we live in a society where jealousy is used as a driving force of capitalism and to "improve" our lives. Advertising is targeted at everyone, including those who cannot afford to buy what is advertised, so we create resentment and avarice.

We believe that hard work will always advance us. However the reality is there is a system where the winners are the ones who have the capability to fuck over others, legally (or illegally). We are seeing students who after working hard an leaving university ending up straight on the dole. It is their fault of course as their qualifications are worthless.

Not that that excuses rioting. I am happy to see evictions and benefits withdrawn. Years of christain dogma got us nowhere with regards to the 'moral fibre' of our young people.

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