LibDem voters - will you vote for them again?

Abernathy · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:15 pm

new puritan wrote:

Only 23% of those who voted Lib Dem in 2010 think Clegg is doing well as party leader. As many as one in three of the die-hards – those who have stayed loyal to the party – think he is doing badly.

We kicked out a prize twat of a Lib Dem councillor last month. He is pretty active on the internet, on local politics forums and such like, and from 2010 had been a staunch defender of everything his party leader did as part of the Tory coalition. Now that he has lost his seat, though, he's straight back on the web calling for Clegg to go PDQ.

new puritan · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:21 pm

Abernathy wrote:

new puritan wrote:

Only 23% of those who voted Lib Dem in 2010 think Clegg is doing well as party leader. As many as one in three of the die-hards – those who have stayed loyal to the party – think he is doing badly.

We kicked out a prize twat of a Lib Dem councillor last month. He is pretty active on the internet, on local politics forums and such like, and from 2010 had been a staunch defender of everything his party leader did as part of the Tory coalition. Now that he has lost his seat, though, he's straight back on the web calling for Clegg to go PDQ.

In Salford, we kicked the handful of remaining Lib Dems out of their wards last month. Their leader was quick to pin the blame on Clegg and the coalition, but I'd never seen him do anything other than parrot the party line prior to being given the boot. I sometimes lurk on Lib Dem Voice and it seems there are still a lot of them who don't realise the gravity of their situation, despite their repeated tonkings in local elections. If there are any remaining social democrats in that party, they must be gluttons for punishment.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:10 pm

We've only got 1 in Tower Hamlets who is very good. I vote for her (among my 3 choices).

They used to run the council in the early 90s.

davidjay · **Joined:** Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:24 pm **Posts:** 3841

Abernathy wrote:

new puritan wrote:

Only 23% of those who voted Lib Dem in 2010 think Clegg is doing well as party leader. As many as one in three of the die-hards – those who have stayed loyal to the party – think he is doing badly.

We kicked out a prize twat of a Lib Dem councillor last month. He is pretty active on the internet, on local politics forums and such like, and from 2010 had been a staunch defender of everything his party leader did as part of the Tory coalition. Now that he has lost his seat, though, he's straight back on the web calling for Clegg to go PDQ.

I wonder who that might be. Did by any chance a journalist with the same initials once say he reached the limits of his ability when he was press officer for the local branch of CAMRA?

Abernathy · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:21 am

I can only recommend this outstanding example of prurience coupled to sheer idiocy, a strong candidate for the most unintentionally hilarious You Tube video ever. Stick to the end for the afterthought assurances that they aren't being anti-gay, oh no. Incidentally, the woman is the receptacle for John Hemming MP's semen and his former PA.

Winegums · **Joined:** Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:04 pm **Posts:** 711

I held it together until he referred to a condom as a 'prophylactic cover'.

DTR · **Posted:** Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:20 pm

Electoral Calculus are predicting that, based in the boundary changes in north Southwark, Simon Hughes will almost certainly loose his seat at the next election.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:19 pm

Old favourite returns. As ever, to the right of the Tories

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18567776

Quote:

State spending is too high and likely to be leading to "waste and inefficiency", ex-Liberal Democrat Cabinet minister David Laws has said.

Mr Laws said the public sector's share of the economy should be cut to 35% from the 49% it reached in 2010-11.

It needed to be "back in kilter with the amount of tax people are prepared to pay", he told the Sunday Telegraph.

His call goes further than that of Commons Treasury committee chairman Andrew Tyrie who wants a 40% share.

Quote:

"Even after the existing fiscal consolidations, state spending will account for some 40% of GDP, a figure that would have shocked not only Adam Smith, William Gladstone, and John Stuart Mill, but also John Maynard Keynes and David Lloyd George," he said.

Yeah, because Keynes couldn't have got his head around an ageing population. Or that stuff like healthcare was paid for from tax revenue rather than mostly being done privately as it was in his day. Or that people stayed much longer in education. His head would have hurt.

Anyway, you're the Liberal Democrats. You were formed by merger of the Liberals and the SDP. You think your first leader, Paddy Ashdown, is shocked at 40%?

new puritan · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:33 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Quote:

"Even after the existing fiscal consolidations, state spending will account for some 40% of GDP, a figure that would have shocked not only Adam Smith, William Gladstone, and John Stuart Mill, but also John Maynard Keynes and David Lloyd George," he said.

Yeah, because Keynes couldn't have got his head around an ageing population. Or that stuff like healthcare was paid for from tax revenue rather than mostly being done privately as it was in his day. Or that people stayed much longer in education. His head would have hurt.

Anyway, you're the Liberal Democrats. You were formed by merger of the Liberals and the SDP. You think your first leader, Paddy Ashdown, is shocked at 40%?

I very much doubt that Lloyd George and Keynes would have been too shocked to see state spending at 40% of GDP, tbh.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:05 pm

Wartime is a bit of a special case.

I think Keynes was quite critical of the "victory at all costs" policy in WW1.

new puritan · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:13 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Wartime is a bit of a special case.

As is the situation we're in now. Austerity in the face of a systemic crisis is a proven failure, but the economic liberals just can't face the fact that their god has failed and knackered the global economy as it did in the 1920s.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:17 pm

Oh yes, I agree.

I think Laws is talking about some time when this is all sorted out, or something.

Andy McDandy · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:25 pm

Just on that video. Blimey, it's the Bumming Bushes from "The Law of the Playground". Even down to the chairs - evidence of a Bumming so protracted that one of the participants had to sit down and have a rest.

new puritan · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:27 pm

The timing of Laws' comments is interesting. On the same day that Cameron talks shite in the papers to placate the hard right, Laws does, er, the same. So much for the Liberals' 'moderating influence'.

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:36 pm

As noted, he's massively to the right of Andrew Tyrie, who is a fairly dry Tory.

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