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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:56 pm 
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Are you sure that's not a piss take? That can't be real....


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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Are you sure that's not a piss take? That can't be real....


It could easily pass for a parody, but the IEA isn't exactly renowned for its sense of humour. It's pretty much the sort of standard-issue ultra-libertarian market fundamentalist bollocks they spew out on a regular basis. What makes it so frightening is the fact it's a cut-out-and-keep guide to subverting the democratic will to sneak NHS privatisation through - which is precisely what Lansley is doing. The duplicitous fucking cunt.

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Having read that I'm not really sure I can sustain the will to live. It's totally fucking sociopathic.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:01 pm 
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Just going back to the original story, this should be particular cause for alarm:

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Final bids will be evaluated in May. The contract will be awarded to "the most economically advantageous" bid, according to criteria listed for it on the European commission website, where any European public tenders are required by competition law to be published.


Surely this gives the lie to Lansley's bullshit about providers being judged on quality rather than price. I just can't believe the sneaky cunts are getting away with this without so much as a by-your-leave from the electorate. Dirty, dirty lowlife bastards.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:32 pm 
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Devon NHS children's services set for privatisation

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Core children's health services in Devon may be about to be privatised in a move critics have warned is a foretaste of the breaking up of the NHS that will take place when the government's health and social care bill becomes law.

The Guardian has learned that NHS Devon and Devon county council have shortlisted bids led by two private, profit-making companies – Serco and Virgin Care – to provide a large range of frontline services for children across the county, including some of the most sensitive care for highly vulnerable children and families, such as child protection, treatment for mentally ill children and adolescents, therapy and respite care for those with disabilities, health visiting, and palliative nursing for dying children.
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The outsourcing of such a large and complex part of NHS services will be highly controversial. Opponents of the health secretary, Andrew Lansley's reforms have argued that the bill, now in its final stages in parliament, will lead to rapid privatisation of the NHS and the end of universal free public provision.

A spokesman for Lansley said the Devon bid was an example of how current reforms were following the direction of travel for the NHS set long before the current government. "We support patient choices and whoever is best getting the contracts. We reject the idea that because a private company might get it, it is privatisation," he said, pointing out that services would still be free to use and funded out of taxation.

Neither of the two private companies in the Devon bids has experience of running specialist children's health services for the NHS.


How do patients get a choice when it comes to health visiting or child protection?

And in my experience the companies that are awarded these contracts are not the ones that would provide the best service but the ones with the glossiest bids and the biggest hospitality budgets.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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Perhaps most importantly, the compulsory licensing of medical professionals should be abolished. Anyone should be at liberty to practice as a doctor or nurse, with patients relying on brand names or competing voluntary associations to ensure quality. Ending current restrictive practices is essential to enable private firms to increase productivity in the sector.


What the actual fuck? Being qualified and licensed to practice is restrictive? Why am I thinking of that Mitchell and Webb Homeopathic A&E sketch...?


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:23 pm 
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There's a good article over on CiF from Allyson Pollock neatly demolishing some of the dodgy science underpinning the Health Bill and the supposed benefits of competition in healthcare.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... healthcare

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The drip-feed of pro-competition arguments from economists Julian Le Grand and Zack Cooper at the London School of Economics raises serious questions about the independence and academic rigour of research by academics seeking to reassure government of the benefits of market competition in healthcare.

Last July, Cooper and several colleagues released an unpublished paper to coincide with the prime minister's announcement that he was setting up a forum in response to concerns about his health bill. The authors were sufficiently persuasive for David Cameron to declare "Put simply: competition is one way we can make things work better for patients. This isn't ideological theory. A study published by the London School of Economics found hospitals in areas with more choice had lower death rates."

The study in question claimed that competition in the NHS saved lives. The authors claimed that if heart attack mortality rates were used as an indicator of quality, mortality rates fell more quickly and therefore quality improved for patients after competition between hospitals was introduced to the NHS in their area. But if you examine the evidence it is clear that competition had nothing to do with it. The intervention that the authors claimed reduced deaths from heart attacks was patient choice – a proxy for competition. In 2006, patients were given choices of hospitals, including private providers, for some selected treatments, mainly non-emergency surgery. Yet there is no biological mechanism to explain why having a choice of providers for cataract, hip and knee operations could affect the overall survival rate from heart attacks. These are emergencies where patients do not exercise choice over where they are treated and are usually treated in the NHS.

As the government's own cardiac tsar Roger Boyle explains. "Patients can't chose where to have their heart attack or where to be treated. It is bizarre to choose a condition where choice by consumer can have virtually no effect. Patients suffering severe pain in emergencies clouded by strong analgesia don't make choices. It's the ambulance driver who follows the protocol and drives to the nearest heart attack centre."

So among the numerous problems with this study the authors have made the cardinal error of confusing minor statistical associations with causation. Deaths from acute heart attacks are not a measure of the quality of hospital care as a whole, as they claim, but rather a measure of access to and quality of cardiology care. Gwyn Bevan, professor of management science at the London School of Economics, who carried out a review of patient choice and competition in the BMJ commented on the paper's shortcomings. He subsequently went on to say that he was "perplexed" by Andrew Lansley's emphasis on the role of choice and competition because "the evidence is very weak and contested".

"In fact, I would argue that we don't have any strong evidence of that effect. To my mind, the jury is at best still out on whether choice and competition will improve quality of care in the NHS."


As one of the comments points out, Zack Cooper is a Chicago School alumnus, which should immediately call his objectivity into question.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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Serco are incredible. You could put anything out to tender and they'd turn up. "Transferable" skills?


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:42 pm 
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Serco are incredible. You could put anything out to tender and they'd turn up. "Transferable" skills?


Much like Crapita, Capgemini and the like, they're a well-connected firm good at winning government contracts and that's about it. These companies - sorry, private sector wealth creators - would be nowhere if it wasn't for a steady stream of taxpayer dosh.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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Serco do "Boris bikes",which have cost far more than expected. It's amazing how the politician gets the stick. Not that I'm complaining on this occasion.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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We had a seminar today on child abuse, covering its history, types of abuse, legislation in place to prevent it, etc. In particular we looked at the cases of Victoria Climbié and Baby P. In both of these cases there were multiple factors resulting in the abuse and death of these children, but a key factor in both was lack of integration of services/communication between them.

It was rather prophetic, therefore that the faculty of public health released an assessment of the risk of the NHS bill, highlighting the failures this bill will have, such as the following scenario

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Illustrative Scenario6

A seven year old girl has autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. She lives with her single mother and three siblings in a high rise flat in a deprived area. Her mother is depressed and struggling to cope.

The school are concerned because she regularly has bruises on her arms and arrives hungry and late. The bruising may result from reasonable restraint by her mother and her hunger may be indicative of her challenging behaviour as autistic children can be difficult to feed.

She needs an urgent combined health and social care assessment to determine whether she is being abused and/or neglected. She requires an appropriate school that can cope with her complex needs, and regular review by community paediatricians, a child development team and child and adolescent mental health professionals working together to coordinate services around the child. A high level of cooperation is essential to ensure the child’s safety.

The notion of choice has no relevance to this family. It is unlikely that this girl’s mother will be able to adequately articulate her needs and have the skill and resources to navigate a complex environment of healthcare, social care and education services.

Some of the services this family need, such as parenting skills for her mother, may be regarded as low priority by the CCG. Services for this family will fall under the responsibility of the CCG, the NHS Commissioning Board, the local authority public health department, the local authority children’s social care and with the new Police Commissioner. Ensuring that fragmented health services can fully integrate with social care and education services will be a significant challenge.


These problems are common enough in a system which is meant to be consistent, when various agencies are trying to purchase contracts, it will be many time worse. Indeed, as the document says:

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In a competitive market there is no incentive for providers to collaborate to provide integrated pathways of care. Indeed, such collaboration may be seen as anti-competitive and incur substantial financial penalties


At the risk of sounding meladramatic, I honestly believe this legislation will kill children.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:36 pm 
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It is not melodramatic.
Each privatisation has cost lives. This one will be a monster, but will go unreported, as the victims will be from the 'feral underclass'.


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You have to wonder whether there is any joined up thinking at all between the Department for Education and the Department of Health. The Green Paper on SEN proposes the production of statements for children which will deal together with their health, education and social care needs. Although that is undoubtedly sensible, no-one really thinks it's particularly workable even under the current system. But it really would be unworkable under a privatised system, unless there is provision requiring local authorities to contract with privatised health services to provide the necessary assessments and support. And if they're required to contract, undoubtedly the health companies will whack their prices up, knowing the councils have no choice. And suddenly everyone will find the new system costs twice as much as the old. There's a surprise.


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The lack of co-ordination was made plain when Gove changed the name of his department from Children, Schools and Families back to simply Education. No-one else took on those rôles.


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NHS shake-up leaves some private health firms turning to tax havens

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Leading private health firms hoping to benefit from the government's controversial NHS reforms have set up corporate structures that allow the avoidance of tax on millions of pounds' worth of profit, it can be revealed.

An investigation into the accounts of five of the biggest corporate names who lobbied in favour of health secretary Andrew Lansley's reforms has found widespread use of tax havens.


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