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 Post subject: We're All In This Together?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:52 am 
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A place to document the lie.

Pulling down 100k a year and it looks like you're going to have to forego that third bottle of Margaux? R-E-L-A-X, Gideon is having a rethink on child benefit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9122278/Child-benefit-cap-for-high-earners-to-be-watered-down.html

(...are they trying to provoke summat or what?)

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Here's a thought. How about keeping the 50% tax and creating a mansions tax?
Just imagine if the most anti-social, something-for-nothing, selfish examples of Broken Britain - the very rich - had to give something back to society!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:20 am 
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George Osborne poised to slash top tax rate from 50p to 40p

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It is understood that the drive to cut the top rate is coming from Osborne as much as David Cameron. The chancellor has, sources say, been intellectually persuaded of the case for a cut in the top rate, a move that will endear him to the Tory right.


Arf. We all know how much 'intellectual persuasion' it takes to get a rich bloke to favour tax cuts. Still, I can't help but think this is a big political risk as much as anything. Squeaky bum time for the Lib Dems - if they fail to get a mansion tax out of this (and it's increasingly looking that way because they're utterly fucking useless) a hammering in May's local elections is surely nailed on.

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The tax is raising merely hundreds of millions of pounds, this suspicious sounding "preliminary study" says.

Suddenly the Laffer Curve falls by the wayside, seeing it's not costing the country any money. "Not enough as someone might have said" is sufficient to get it abolished.

Friend of mine reckon there could be a political game going on.

Btw, that child benefit cut isn't a daft thing to oppose. You get couples where both work better off than a couple where one does, but is in the 40% tax rate. And you get a serious disincentive to work more if you're just under that 40% threshold.


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Another reason why I don't understand why we use 'bands' and 'cut offs' when we live in a world of equations. Granted telling someone "your tax is log(income) + ln(income^2)/ 100" is going to be less clear, but it'd also be much more useful.


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I'm surprised that I haven't seen any editorial cartoonists try updating this classic yet:

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They're all in the piss dungeon, right?

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Lowering corporation tax to 24% by 2014, encouraging companies to establish treasury functions outside the UK in future and pay just 5.75% tax on them as a result.Cutting the tax will actually have little impact on economic growth. In fact, the 50p rate was a good tax source.

Yet, with the corporation tax already so low, avoidance and dodging made even easier and encouraged it's perfectly clear this policy is pure tokenism.

The battle lines are clear: Osborne has declared class war. It'd be offensive to suggest otherwise.

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Samanfur wrote:
I'm surprised that I haven't seen any editorial cartoonists try updating this classic yet:

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The old JK Galbraith quote springs to mind yet again.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Osborne seems to think that because many people avoid paying the 50% rate it should be abolished.

Compare and contrast with teir attitude towards benefit cheats.


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This is one thing Labour must commit to re-addressing once they are re-elected, it is political suicide.


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May 2010:
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The prime minister has said he wants the new coalition administration to be "the greenest government ever"

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Environmental regulations set to be slashed

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Scores of environmental regulations are to be slashed under government plans to be announced on Monday, the Guardian has learned.

The rules affected include controls on asbestos, invasive species and industrial air pollution; protection for wildlife and common lands; as well as restrictions on noise nuisance and deadly animal traps.

Ministers are expected to say the cutting of red tape will save businesses £1bn, but the move has shocked campaigners, who argue that the government's search for economic growth is mistakenly targeting the environment.


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Public servants in poorer regions to get lower pay

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George Osborne will announce plans to pay lower salaries to public sector workers in poorer parts of the country in his budget next week.

The chancellor will argue that public sector pay should mimic the private sector and be more reflective of local economies. He intends to start the process in three Whitehall departments in the coming financial year, as part of a phased introduction.

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The first posts to be considered for localised pay are the 100,000 staff in the Department for Work and Pensions; 21,000 posts in the Home Office, including Border Agency staff; and 16,000 staff in the Department of Transport, including the DVLA in Swansea.

The Treasury intends to spread the reforms beyond the civil service across the public sector in the years ahead as staff come out of the public sector pay freeze.

The department is not trying to introduce just regional pay, but local or zonal pay that might take account of, for instance, living costs in suburban Manchester as opposed to inner-city Manchester.

The Treasury regards the change as one of the most important measures it can introduce to rebalance the economy. Osborne claims the move would provide a boost to the private sector in the north and south-west, arguing that employers in these areas cannot afford to recruit staff owing to the relatively high public sector wages in cheaper areas of the country.


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