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 Post subject: that's it folks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:36 pm 
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I know I hat doing this but

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... intcmp=239

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
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The irony, of course, is that the biggest hope we have of doing this and keeping the lights on is so detested by the Graun, namely nuclear power.

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:43 pm 
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exactly blubell do you think we really are all doomed then?

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
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No, because I'm at best a climate change agnostic I'm afraid.

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:48 pm 
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How come then blubell?

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I just am. I know about all the research and stuff but I just find the whole thing to be constantly scare-mongering. Much as the right are constantly telling us that we're going to be flooded with immigrants sometime tomorrow, the left are constantly telling us that we're going to be killed off by climate change sometime next year.

And why are they preaching at me? Why are they not preaching at the Chinese and India Governments?

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:30 pm 
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I suppose you have a point there bluebell so I how come you don't beleive the report I linked to then?

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
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Simple. I refuse to believe someone has suddenly discovered we only have five years before suddenly it all goes tits up. Either;

1. Someone knew beforehand but kept schtum waiting for the five year barrier.
2. Someone is using the data in such a way as to grab headlines.
3. It's bollocks.

My reasoning? I'm pretty sure we were told much the same about 5 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
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bluebellnutter wrote:
I just am. I know about all the research and stuff but I just find the whole thing to be constantly scare-mongering.

Can't both of those things be correct? Isn't it possible to accept climate change as a fact, with potentially wide-ranging, malign consequences, while rejecting the apocalyptic scenarios peddled by pressure groups and the media? Perhaps that's what you mean by "slightly sceptical".


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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:50 pm 
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Well again you do make some good points there bluebell however a few days I read a report by the BBC's Richard Black who told us that

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15619962

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
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So ezinra what are your views on the report then?

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Gosh, I suppose I'll have to read it now. :(

Serves me right for opining without knowing what I'm talking about!


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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:08 pm 
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ok you do that

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
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so what did you think Ezinra?

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 Post subject: Re: that's it folks
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I'm going for no comment on this, the last time I mentioned climate change I started a shit storm. All I will say is I tend to find myself close to Bluebell on the issue. Yes, there is something in it but I feel its exaggerated.

OK, at least UI'm not saying its bollocks anymore - progr :D ess?


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