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Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:39 pm

I'm reliably informed Channel 4 News just shat on Grayling. Is that true?

smod · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:48 pm

http://www.channel4.com/news/no-benefit ... at-maplins

Tubby Isaacs · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:13 am

Sir Geoffrey Norman MP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr_mivwyxdU

No, no, no.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2896

Oops, sounds like the DWP has been caught out.

new puritan · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:32 pm

HMV are getting cold feet now. Note how the Telegraph is still slavishly following the boneheaded Tory line. I bet the SWP can't believe their luck - they haven't had this much attention in years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... cheme.html

Quote:

The high street retailer said the threat of boycotts from activists and potential reputational damage was having a "disproportionate" impact on unpaid work experience schemes, which the company had now placed under review.

The move shows the campaign against unpaid placements – led by a small group of left-wing protesters – has spread to companies that are not even involved in the Government scheme that caused the controversy.

Still seems to be getting short shrift in the comments, though.

Quote:

martincarter
Yesterday 04:55 PM
"the campaign against unpaid placements – led by a small group
of left-wing protesters....."

I don't personally believe the campaign is led by a small group of left-wing protesters. The evidence is that a wholly unacceptable unpaid night-shift position at Tesco's for people on benefits (only) attracted widespread condemnation through social media (Twitter, etc.) when it was revealed.

The majority of commentators even on the DT website have expressed their opposition to that, and rightly so. It's a world apart from providing genuine work experience for young people, which most reasonable people can see has some merits.

Messianic Trees · **Joined:** Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:50 pm **Posts:** 2896

Cameron has just condemned the "Trotskyists in the Right to Work campaign" at PMQs.

new puritan · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:41 pm

Messianic Trees wrote:

Cameron has just condemned the "Trotskyists in the Right to Work campaign" at PMQs.

Britain, 2012: where asking for the minimum wage makes you a communist.

smod · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:20 pm

Messianic Trees wrote:

Cameron has just condemned the "Trotskyists in the Right to Work campaign" at PMQs.

How crass. It's incredibly short sighted of this government to see any criticism as a leftist conspiracy. What a bizarre alternate reality they inhabit.

new puritan · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:32 pm

smod wrote:

Messianic Trees wrote:

Cameron has just condemned the "Trotskyists in the Right to Work campaign" at PMQs.

How crass. It's incredibly short sighted of this government to see any criticism as a leftist conspiracy. What a bizarre alternate reality they inhabit.

Gets the blue rinse brigade wetting their bloomers though, which is what it's really about. Perception management and all that. I think Cameron, Grayling and co been taken aback by the sheer breadth of the opposition to workfare, which is why they're now trying to turn it into a partisan issue.

Kreuzberger · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:51 pm

new puritan wrote:

smod wrote:

Messianic Trees wrote:

Cameron has just condemned the "Trotskyists in the Right to Work campaign" at PMQs.

How crass. It's incredibly short sighted of this government to see any criticism as a leftist conspiracy. What a bizarre alternate reality they inhabit.

Gets the blue rinse brigade wetting their bloomers though, which is what it's really about. Perception management and all that. I think Cameron, Grayling and co been taken aback by the sheer breadth of the opposition to workfare, which is why they're now trying to turn it into a partisan issue.

Excellent! One by one, middle-Britlanders will be thinking to themselves, "Y'know what? I'm uneasy about this and I don't consider myself a Communist. In fact, I voted for the Tories."

new puritan · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:54 pm

From the Graun:

Quote:

All benefit sanctions in the government's work experience scheme are to be dropped. More details soon …

Looks like the 'Trots' are winning. :cry:

Althea · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:56 pm

Instead of faffing about, the scheme should just be dropped completely until a time comes when it has been thought about properly and designed in order to benefit the jobseeker and NOT the company.

new puritan · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:49 pm

Workfare opponents have morphed into anarchists now, according to IBS. Bizarre.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17200688

Quote:

Mr Duncan Smith called the programme "brilliant", adding: "People volunteer to do it and we have a queue of kids desperate to do it."

On the protesters, he said: "This bunch of anarchists, half of them who are are unemployed, actually need to be cleared out of the way."

'Cleared out of the way', eh? Good to see Tories showing their usual steadfast commitment to civil liberties and the right to protest. Got to love the little backhanded sneer at the unemployed as well.

bluebellnutter · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:52 pm

So the unemployed no longer deserve to have a say in their own fates or the way the country is run.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Tory mindset in a nutshell.

Althea · **Posted:** Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:13 pm

Not just 'cleared out of the way', but 'actually cleared out of the way'.

And yes, I think IDS will find that the unemployed are complaining about being unemployed because a scheme for the unemployed is making them unemployed by taking work away from the employed, thus not solving the unemployment issue!

What an utter berk.

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