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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:39 pm 
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Also did A4E actually secure all those jobs or are they just claiming the credit for some people who managed to find work off their own bat with no help from Workfare.


Yes, I know because I'm a sad attendee of Ingeus - or was until my two months were up, then you get sent to another provider to see if they can find you a job any easier (these are sort of like courses or training centres referred to by Ingeus so I'm sure I'd still be listed as a client and they'd probably claim that as help to find me work- I picked the music one as it was the only one I could easily get to) luckily the guys who run mine are very easy going and know if you are a pisstaker or not.

If like me you aren't they let you get on with your own jobsearch and whatever else you want to use the facilities for (within reason), and they don't demand I go in more than once a week. Incidentaly I don't think they like Ingeus any more than the rest of us.

It would not suprise me in the slightest if Ingeus still count me as a client -I believe you might have to got back if you don't have a job after the 13 weeks- and that if I get a job it would still be counted by them as a success.

Luckily for me my festival job will only be for five weeks, then I'll be back so I don't think I'll count as a success- ha haa haa. :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:52 pm 
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Welfare to work scheme co-ordinating firm goes bankrupt

The government's controversial welfare to work initiative has suffered another blow after it emerged that a social enterprise firm hired to get the long-term jobless into employment has gone into liquidation, claiming banks refused to lend it money to stay afloat because they considered the work programme to be too financially risky.

Eco Actif, a community interest company based in Sutton, Surrey, closed suddenly on Friday morning. It provided employment support for around 500 people in the south-east of London, operating as a subcontractor in a regional supply chain headed by the welfare to work company A4e.

Its chief executive, Amanda Palmer-Roye, said Eco-Actif had performed well in getting people into work and had a £1m order book but had been unable to raise the capital to sustain itself under the government's payment by results system, under which firms must wait 18 months between delivery and payment.

In a letter to staff, Palmer-Roye said Eco Actif had approached both conventional banks and social finance providers for backing but had been refused on the grounds that the work programme was too high-risk and that "prime contractors are not passing sufficient funds to the ultimate delivery organisations to make sufficient surplus to finance any loan".

The letter added that its association with A4E had been a matter of great concern to potential investors.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:35 pm 
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I put that on the Omnishambles, but this is a good place too.

If what she says about payments for results taking 18 months is true, she's got my sympathy. Obviously her organisation were too small to be bailed out or have their contract renegotiated.

Nice sighting of Philippa Stroud. It's good that you can attend a church a dodgy church, get rejected by the electorate, and still be gifted a nice job in government.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:40 pm 
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Labour attacks work programme 'chaos' after forecasts revised

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The government's flagship employment scheme is facing an "almighty mess", Labour has said, after a revision of official forecasts showed 1 million fewer people would be eligible.

In the latest blow to the work programme, in which companies are paid by results to find work for the long-term unemployed, the government has almost halved the number of people expected to use the scheme. There are now fears that people hired to find work for the unemployed could in turn lose their jobs.

Liam Byrne, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said: "Chaos is engulfing the government's flagship back-to-work scheme. Unemployment is at a 16-year high and yet welfare to work now appears to be in the hands of the Keystone Cops."

The government disclosed in May that 1.4 million people would be eligible for the scheme, rather than the 2.6 million forecast in December. This represents a 43% fall in the number of people expected to go through the work programme between now and 2015-16.

Government sources acknowledged there was a surprising spike last December in projections by the Office for Budget Responsibility of the number of people who would apply for jobseeker's allowance. The OBR, the government's independent economic forecaster, has repeatedly revised downwards its forecasts for economic growth.


The scheme is so badly run, it might actually increase unemployment with the new figures. Truly ironic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... amme-chaos

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:40 pm 
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The tenure angle may be a non-story, but the personnel change could be significant:

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Reviewer of fitness-to-work benefit tests to stand down

The man in charge of reviewing the government's controversial fitness-to-work benefit assessments is to stand down, the BBC's Panorama has learned.

Professor Malcolm Harrington has called for a big overhaul of the process of testing claimants' ability to work to make it more "fair and humane".

He said ministers wanted a "fresh set of eyes" - but denied this was because of changes he had asked for.

Officials said he had only been recruited for a limited period.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:06 pm 
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Humane? Put this man on a train to Dachau immediately :twisted:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:13 pm 
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Lots more taxpayer dosh is soon to be winging its way to Atos. I see Crapita are in on it as well - no show without Punch, it would seem.

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Atos, the firm that runs the work capability assessment designed to encourage people to move off benefits and into employment, has won contracts worth more than £400m to test whether disabled people should continue receiving benefits..

The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) announced the award of three contracts in England and Wales, with Atos unexpectedly winning the lion's share of the work. The smaller of the three contracts, covering Wales and parts of central England, was won by the outsourcing company Capita.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/ ... efit-tests

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:16 pm 
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Do ATOS actually get penalised for successful appeals? Every one of those is a waste of government time and money.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:52 am 
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The scheme itself has been ruled lawful but lawyers and DWP confirm that that 10,000's sanctioned under Work Prog, CAP etc.. have been ruled unlawful by high court.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:33 am 
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Even so, Littlejohn's column for tomorrow has just written itself.

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And about a hundred others- young so-called graduate etc.

Actually they wrote that before, but that won't stop them again, will it?


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In a decision that has potentially far-reaching consequences the Judge held that the decision to strip our client of his benefits for six months was unlawful because the DWP failed, as required by law, to provide information to him about the consequences of not participating in the scheme. Mr Wilson received the DWP’s standard form letters requiring his attendance on the Community Action Programme. These letters, which have been sent out to thousands of other people mandating their attendance on such schemes, failed to comply with the basic notice requirements that would allow the DWP to lawfully impose benefit sanctions.

Over the last year, across the country, tens of thousands of people have been stripped of their benefits and must now be entitled to reimbursement by the DWP.

Tessa Gregory of Public Interest Lawyers stated:

“As of January 2012, over 22,000 people[2] had been stripped of their benefits for failing to participate in the Work Programme alone. That figure must now have doubled. Today’s decision should mean that many of those subjected to benefit sanctions will be entitled to reimbursement by the Department of Work and Pensions. It is truly extraordinary that the Government has found itself in this position by failing to provide basic information to those affected.

We welcome the Court’s ruling on this issue but we continue to maintain that the Regulations themselves are unlawful and ought to be quashed. We are seeking permission to appeal the Court’s findings in this regard.”


http://www.publicinterestlawyers.co.uk/ ... php?id=268

Government to appeal this decision. It could prove very costly for them.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-08- ... obseekers/

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:06 pm 
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There was a truly scummy comment from some DWP lackey after the judgment.

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The DWP said: "We are delighted, although not surprised, that the judge agrees our schemes are not forced labour.

"Comparing our initiatives to slave labour is not only ridiculous but insulting to people around the world facing real oppression."

She added that the scheme was making a real difference to people's lives. "Those who oppose this process are actually opposed to hard work and they are harming the life chances of unemployed young people who are trying to get on."


So if you're opposed to handing business free, coerced labour courtesy of the state, you're apparently against hard work. Funny, then, that you don't often see 'Trotskyites' protesting outside factories, hospitals, or building sites. These cunts really are on another planet.

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Interesting story in the Guardi. Not Workfare but similar.

Vermin!

The commentators seem to be on the case with providing info about said company.

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