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 Post subject: Re: Workfare
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:48 pm 
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I'd like to see the figures he's talking about. Tesco have taken on over 100,000 in the past 4 months alone on the scheme and created about 300 jobs. Of course, that's just one company. It's depressing when you are forced into work experience on pain of losing your benefits.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:55 pm 
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new puritan wrote:
Nick Clegg: still a cunt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17116473

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Nick Clegg said the scheme would help protect the unemployed from loneliness and depression


Know what else would protect the unemployed from loneliness and depression? That's right - a proper fucking job. Knobhead.

Normally I'd find something to defend Clegg on when he's attacked from either the left or the right, but I just can't do so on this matter. This is becoming a big balls up.

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 Post subject: Re: Workfare
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:00 pm 
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We've had a brilliant collection of justifications, haven't we?

They'll be saying "one lucky workfarer a week wins a back of groceries" next.

Is there not a case for someone challenging this under competition law? As ever, the party of small business are committed to making it harder for smaller grocers to survive. Maybe a nice test case from a lifelong Tory would be an idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Workfare
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There was a female Tory MP on Radio 4 earlier and when asked about people protesting when Lansley showed up her response was, "Oh... but they all had copies of Socialist Worker. Next question." I paraphrase but she was writing people off as beyond consideration on this basis. Totally ignored the question and had no qualms about ignoring sections of society not like her.

I have decided to buy a copy of Socialist Worker next time I'm out, purely because of this. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Workfare
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17122796

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 Post subject: Re: Workfare
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The former staff - women aged 28 and 49 and two men, aged 35 and 41 - were held last month and bailed until mid-March


I could be barking up the wrong tree here, but isn't Emma Harrison in her late forties?



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Apparently she is 48 in some article I just read but not sure when it was posted.


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The thing about workfare, is that if it involves work that actually needs doing, is that workfare removes the need to actually employ people.

In times of high unemployment this just keeps the cycle of high unemployment going, mind you, high unemployment is good for politicians from the right and their rich paymasters.

Workfare maintains an extra tax/borrowing burden.

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Mail have spotted A4e are jokers- front page article.

Who was that Tory woman? Was it pointed out Cameron didn't invite anyone who didn't agree with him to his speech?


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Priti Patel was defending workfare at PMQs. She said it's the militant hard left who oppose it. Delusional at best.

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Priti Patel was defending workfare at PMQs. She said it's the militant hard left who oppose it. Delusional at best.


This appears to be the Tory line (of course, Priti Patel is a dimwit in her own right anyway) but it's a dud. They don't seem to have noticed that many of their own supporters don't like the idea of their taxes providing free labour for multi-billion pound businesses.

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new puritan wrote:
smod wrote:
Priti Patel was defending workfare at PMQs. She said it's the militant hard left who oppose it. Delusional at best.


This appears to be the Tory line (of course, Priti Patel is a dimwit in her own right anyway) but it's a dud. They don't seem to have noticed that many of their own supporters don't like the idea of their taxes providing free labour for multi-billion pound businesses.


I find it helps when you raise the issue of the free labour supermarket undercutting Mr Bun the Baker on the high street.


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Good blog on A4E

http://www.elibloglondon.blogspot.com/2 ... train.html

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Bones McCoy wrote:
new puritan wrote:
smod wrote:
Priti Patel was defending workfare at PMQs. She said it's the militant hard left who oppose it. Delusional at best.


This appears to be the Tory line (of course, Priti Patel is a dimwit in her own right anyway) but it's a dud. They don't seem to have noticed that many of their own supporters don't like the idea of their taxes providing free labour for multi-billion pound businesses.


I find it helps when you raise the issue of the free labour supermarket undercutting Mr Bun the Baker on the high street.


Priti might be advised to take a walk down Witham High Street and ask the people in the small shops. She might find Socialist Worker a bit stronger in that area than previously supposed.


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 Post subject: Re: Workfare
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:48 am 
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What shocks me is that there are people who still think this scheme is defensible (that Patterson columnist in The Indy for one). It's weird that it's gone on this long.


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