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 Post subject: Re: Directly Elected Mayors
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:38 pm 
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So, so wrong. Carl Chinn not only has no intention or running for mayor (and even if he did, he'd need to declare his candidacy so late he would have no chance), but he would not win. Birmingham is a city that in terms of the total number of votes cast, always votes Labour - even though, due to the vagaries of the ward boundaries, there has been a Tory/Lib Dem coalition running things for the past 8 years (with Labour remaining the largest party but unable to command an overall majority).

If there is an election for Mayor in Birmingham this November, it will be the Labour candidate that is elected.

And by the way, you don't think Carl is a Tory, do you? He famously never says how he votes, but I'm all but certain I know how he'll be voting on 3 May.

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I asked him how he intended to vote but would he tell me? Not by the hair on Chinn's chinny-chin-chin.


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 Post subject: Re: Directly Elected Mayors
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:40 pm 
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So how does it feel to have the buzz of mayoral elections?

We had them here in late 2010. Even with an acrimonius split in the Labour party, and the eventual winner being accused of Islamofascism by the right wing press, it was rather underwhelming.

Bit of personality politics doesn't quite undo 30 years of central government saying local government doesn't matter.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:44 pm 
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Around here it's been met with one huge, universal 'Uh?'.

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 Post subject: Re: Directly Elected Mayors
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:26 pm 
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As it was here, despite the impression created that we were on the threshold of an Islamic Revolution.

I'm still managing to get pissed in the borough fairly easily.


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 Post subject: Re: Directly Elected Mayors
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:24 pm 
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So, so wrong. Carl Chinn not only has no intention or running for mayor (and even if he did, he'd need to declare his candidacy so late he would have no chance), but he would not win. Birmingham is a city that in terms of the total number of votes cast, always votes Labour - even though, due to the vagaries of the ward boundaries, there has been a Tory/Lib Dem coalition running things for the past 8 years (with Labour remaining the largest party but unable to command an overall majority).

If there is an election for Mayor in Birmingham this November, it will be the Labour candidate that is elected.

And by the way, you don't think Carl is a Tory, do you? He famously never says how he votes, but I'm all but certain I know how he'll be voting on 3 May.


Whichever way he votes I'm sure he isn't a Tory. Old Labour would be my guess were there still such a thing.

Carl has never declared his intentions or otherwise of running for mayor, but anyone who knows him knows there's more that the image and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the day after nominations open he doesn't declare himself with a slick election machine ready to go. I think he would win because Labour in Birmingham are still in some turmoil and haven't captured the public imagination. His natural constituency is elderly white people, who as we've been told constantly since last week's Budget are the most likely to vote. And he would clean up the second preference votes.


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The only annoyance for me in all this is that numerous Mp's are standing down to run for these said mayoral positions if it is passed which leads to numerous by-elections which cost Labour money which they need not spend.


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The only annoyance for me in all this is that numerous Mp's are standing down to run for these said mayoral positions if it is passed which leads to numerous by-elections which cost Labour money which they need not spend.


I believe the party have said sitting MPs can't run for Mayoral office.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:57 pm 
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mattomac wrote:
The only annoyance for me in all this is that numerous Mp's are standing down to run for these said mayoral positions if it is passed which leads to numerous by-elections which cost Labour money which they need not spend.


I believe the party have said sitting MPs can't run for Mayoral office.


That's why they're standing down. I think Gisela Stuart has said that if the referendum delivers a yes vote, she will resign her seat to seek the nomination as Labour's mayoral candidate. The word is that Sion Simon, who stood down as an MP in 2010, has it sewn up already, though. An interesting side prospect seems to be brewing between Sir Albert Bore, Leader of the Labour group and also a declared contender for mayoral candidate, and Liam Byrne, who is as yet undeclared for anything, but whose Hodge Hill seat is due to disappear at the next election and who as no obvious alternative parliamentary berth. Rumours qbound that Byrne will go for the job,though he is leaving it late.

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Byrne's got the high profile "bad cop" spot in the Cabinet. I'd have thought he'd win selection elsewhere fairly easily.


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As I say, there's nowhere obvious for him to go - hence the rumours about the mayorship.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:09 pm 
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Why can't he wait and apply when people retire? I know there are more places selecting early, but surely there's enough scope?

Talking of candidates being selected, nice to see an ex-Campaign Group MP chosen again

http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/n ... elections/

Only 1299 votes down last time, with 8,955 Lib Dem votes up for grabs.


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All the Birmingham seats are taken care of. I have no idea whether the rumours about him and Albert's plotting are true, butI've heard themfrom more than one source.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:25 pm 
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Why Birmingham? He's from Harlow.


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His family is settled in Brum.

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