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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:16 pm 
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Oh, there's one industry where Britain does very well at exporting to its former colonies:

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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:28 am 
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Novelty belts?


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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:29 am 
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Yup. Belts you can use to kill people with. And not in a Stephen Milligan way.

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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:36 am 
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So to conclude this thread. Emble Jemble is a none-too-bright peddler of cut n' pasted ideas emanating from his party that are easily shot down with a moment's thought by anyone with any sort of political intelligence.

Not the first time or thread in which that conclusion has been arrived at.

You do wonder why he keeps bothering.

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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:39 am 
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What gets me is that he knows the reaction he'll get here, and he knows that his cheerleading will be seen as it is - parrot the party line and then prevaricate, liquefy or resort to insults if subjected to even the slightest scrutiny.

I'd still appreciate an apology from him for calling me ignorant though.

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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:50 am 
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Abernathy wrote:
So to conclude this thread. Emble Jemble is a none-too-bright peddler of cut n' pasted ideas emanating from his party that are easily shot down with a moment's thought by anyone with any sort of political intelligence.

Not the first time or thread in which that conclusion has been arrived at.

You do wonder why he keeps bothering.


I get the impression Emmett is very keen and quite annoyed about a lot of things, and bothers because he'd quite like us to be annoyed about those same things and can't understand why we're not. Unfortunately the reason we rarely see eye to eye is he obviously has a habit of believing whatever he's told first and/or whatever suits his personal prejudices the most without looking into things any further, and this is compounded by the fact he's clearly a little bit dazzled by being in (or rather, appearing to be in to him, because he isn't really) the same circles as people he clearly considers to be quite important because they're high up in UKIP. Which is why he thinks things that aren't issues are massive issues (e.g. his first ever effort here trying to whip up a frenzied panic about the pint being phased out as a unit), and why he misunderstands issues that really are massive because he thinks there are simple answers.

Hence we have someone who is quite clearly intelligent enough to get the basic gist of complex ideas, but then stops short of trying to properly understand them and settles for straw men arguments and/or simply ignoring any intellectual challenge. The "simple answers" require suspension of disbelief and wilful ignorance of their myriad flaws, and Emmett chooses that rather than to challenge himself to understand things more fully and risk coming to a conclusion that doesn't match what someone from UKIP told him and/or one that doesn't match what he already *thinks* is the case. It also explains why he thinks he's in a serious political party despite the fact it's run by a guy who just wants to have a fag in a pub because he's a lazy selfish bastard aided and abetted by a man who thinks he has a magic box that cures all disease and who'd happily sell out the future of his own planet misrepresenting data he blatantly doesn't understand in exchange for a lecture tour plus generous expense account. Selfish gits and deluded egomaniacs all in reality.

I'd be willing to bet Emmett will switch parties later in life as and when someone in UKIP uses him and/or lets him take the fall for something Jeremy Hunt style. Which they'll happily do, of course, seeing as they'd happily let the entire country take the fall for their endearing mixture of flat-out bullshit, mild xenophobia, overly nostalgic colonialism, crackpot science theories and idiotic assumptions. No wonder Nadine "batshit mental" Dorries is making all the right gestures to switch - she'd love more attention and the appearance of greater power for her particular brand of selfish, spiteful, hypocritical cluelessness, and will only get it in a smaller party.


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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:32 pm 
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crabcakes_windermere wrote:
No wonder Nadine "batshit mental" Dorries is making all the right gestures to switch - she'd love more attention and the appearance of greater power for her particular brand of selfish, spiteful, hypocritical cluelessness, and will only get it in a smaller party.


She'll soon be in one of them without having to move a muscle.


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 Post subject: Re: Extreme right & Extreme Left aren't that far apart?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:43 am 
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You've got some pretty serious high level Conservative affiliates with daughters at boarding school who get themselves in a muddle, who aren't going to be favouring Nadine with her hard-line 'pro-life' views any time soon. She's not so much as in the wrong party, but more in the wrong country.

Personally, I think when you start orchestrating a system of state genocide, you're not really left or right-wing any more, you're just a sadistic sociopath, probably with advanced syphilis.

We could equal this country up a lot more without shootings or gulags. You could have a few test cases with strong prison sentences (a flip-side of the 'justice' many low-level rioters faced), and the rest would soon fall into line, or leave. If we have to become a poorer country in the grand scheme of it (comparable with Norway perhaps), then so be it.

The Bob Diamonds of this world should only ever be on a few million at best, which would still cover all the essentials of the super-class (big house, fast car, school fees, fancy lady etc.)
£17 million is clearly too much, and that was effectively just redundancy pay. The only person ever who should get that kind of money is George Orwell, but of course, he died soon after leaving the word with a truly priceless literary legacy.
All these city boys, from Diamond down, what do they actually give to the world; what joyful impact or understanding can they ever bring to peoples lives? Bud Foxes the lot of 'em.

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