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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:50 am 
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I'd rather have a bowl of Coco Pops.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:51 am 
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Fun fact: a bowl of Coco Pops would make a better education secretary.

And starting a new page makes me look like I've lost it.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:24 am 
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Kevin Clash wrote:
Fun fact: a bowl of Coco Pops would make a better education secretary.

And starting a new page makes me look like I've lost it.


You should never lose a bowl of coco pops.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:27 am 
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I think we need to wait for the broadsheet press to properly analyse these exam reforms.

They'll tell us whether O-levels are from the Imperial or "Metric" school, and then we'll all know which way to jerk our knees.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
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The problem with this is believing that Clegg would be informed enough to know whether Cameron was in the dark or not. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
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I wonder when Gove will be expected to come up with costings for his new reforms? I would imagine that replacing hundreds of thousands of text books, piloting new exams and providing training for teachers so they can deliver the new exams won't come cheap. With many school budgets already stretched to breaking point where will Gove get the money from for his reforms?

Perhaps Gove knows a media mogul and educational publisher who might provide him with a discount on all those new books.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:56 pm 
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satnav wrote:
I wonder when Gove will be expected to come up with costings for his new reforms? I would imagine that replacing hundreds of thousands of text books, piloting new exams and providing training for teachers so they can deliver the new exams won't come cheap. With many school budgets already stretched to breaking point where will Gove get the money from for his reforms?

Perhaps Gove knows a media mogul and educational publisher who might provide him with a discount on all those new books.


Or perhaps he doesn't give a shit.
As long as the free schools have their Collins Latin Primers.
Screw the rest.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:18 pm 
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He'll be long gone. Some other poor cunt can cope with that. If indeed he expects this to happen at all.

I note he's been bullshitting again. 40% of kids "are failed" by the system.

That's based on the figures who get 5 A-C GCSEs including English and Maths. If you include those who've done GCSE equivalents, then the figure of failure is about 20%.

So he knows all those courses are crap, and that the people who did them would have been better off doing actual GCSEs. He just knows.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:30 pm 
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That's 'failure' as in 'being on the wrong part of the bell curve'.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:33 pm 
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The ones who do CSEs are therefore automatically "failed", are they?


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:34 pm 
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
I note he's been bullshitting again. 40% of kids "are failed" by the system.

That's based on the figures who get 5 A-C GCSEs including English and Maths. If you include those who've done GCSE equivalents, then the figure of failure is about 20%.
So he knows all those courses are crap, and that the people who did them would have been better off doing actual GCSEs. He just knows.

Notably Key Skills (replaced by Functional Skills in 2009/10) which were introduced in response to the 1996 Dearing Report and guess who was in office when that was commissioned.

He really is shitting on Tory Party past isn't he? First the sainted Margaret's GCSEs, now this.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
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Indeed.

Though I think that making out Keith Joseph, as founder of GCSEs, was part of the socialist establishment might be beyond even a man of Gove's talents.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
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To be fair the lefty educational establishment had been arguing for something like GCSE for years. Especially in comps. It wasn't easy to run two completely different courses post-14, apart from anything else.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
The ones who do CSEs are therefore automatically "failed", are they?


If your definition of success is 5 or even 3 O level passes/GCSE A-Cs, yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Gove
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
To be fair the lefty educational establishment had been arguing for something like GCSE for years. Especially in comps. It wasn't easy to run two completely different courses post-14, apart from anything else.

Yes but the fact that a Tory government, with a sizeable majority, actioned them does rather suggest that they weren't totally agin the idea.

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