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I think Monbiot is very annoying. But so's that paragraph.


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This link is from a fair while back:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/arts-and-culture/all/614776/part_3/doctors-dilemma.thtml

But it does seem to underline the 'nastiness' of some on the right who view any kind of compassionate worldly view within a TV show as the writings of some wishy washy 'liberal' appologist.

Take this last bit of his review:
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At this stage, the Fawn and I exchanged groans and rolled our eyes in disbelief. Doctor Who is a genius, a man of the universe...Since when did he acquire the blinkered values of a bearded Sixties sociology lecturer? Why can his superbrain not grasp the point that what may seem like a slave-wage to a bienpensant TV scriptwriter is yet a king’s ransom for a South-East Asian textile worker, who only has his job because of the comparative advantage his nation has in cheap labour? This is A-level economics we’re talking here, not Tardis science.


'Yea, fuck em, their paid quite well considering, how dare they expect to have any workers rights and be treated like human beings!'

Why is showing/highlighting inquality through a TV show something to be sneared at as the opinions of bearded hippies?

I remember, just about, when Dr Who got pulled in the 80's BEING TO VIOLENT was one of the reasons, wonder which areas of the media made that complaint?
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Doctor Who’s female assistant should not just be there to scream, get captured and be rescued, but should be a rounded, valid person who in her intuitive, clever, feisty female way is every bit as important and interesting as the Doctor himself.


and this is apparently a BAD thing.

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Girls like monsters too, you know.


we also like not being patronised by cunts in the spectator,


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He's also clearly never heard of Barbara Wright, Zoe Herriot, or Liz Shaw to name but three, if he genuinely believes this to be a new trend for female characters in Doctor Who. Call yourself a fan, Delingpole you wanker?


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Mr Mordon wrote:
This link is from a fair while back:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/arts-and-culture/all/614776/part_3/doctors-dilemma.thtml

But it does seem to underline the 'nastiness' of some on the right who view any kind of compassionate worldly view within a TV show as the writings of some wishy washy 'liberal' appologist.

Take this last bit of his review:
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At this stage, the Fawn and I exchanged groans and rolled our eyes in disbelief. Doctor Who is a genius, a man of the universe...Since when did he acquire the blinkered values of a bearded Sixties sociology lecturer? Why can his superbrain not grasp the point that what may seem like a slave-wage to a bienpensant TV scriptwriter is yet a king’s ransom for a South-East Asian textile worker, who only has his job because of the comparative advantage his nation has in cheap labour? This is A-level economics we’re talking here, not Tardis science.


'Yea, fuck em, their paid quite well considering, how dare they expect to have any workers rights and be treated like human beings!'

Why is showing/highlighting inquality through a TV show something to be sneared at as the opinions of bearded hippies?

I remember, just about, when Dr Who got pulled in the 80's BEING TO VIOLENT was one of the reasons, wonder which areas of the media made that complaint?
:roll:


Really? I thought the main reason was that Grade just didn't like it?


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shyamz wrote:
Mr Mordon wrote:
This link is from a fair while back:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/arts-and-culture/all/614776/part_3/doctors-dilemma.thtml

But it does seem to underline the 'nastiness' of some on the right who view any kind of compassionate worldly view within a TV show as the writings of some wishy washy 'liberal' appologist.

Take this last bit of his review:
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At this stage, the Fawn and I exchanged groans and rolled our eyes in disbelief. Doctor Who is a genius, a man of the universe...Since when did he acquire the blinkered values of a bearded Sixties sociology lecturer? Why can his superbrain not grasp the point that what may seem like a slave-wage to a bienpensant TV scriptwriter is yet a king’s ransom for a South-East Asian textile worker, who only has his job because of the comparative advantage his nation has in cheap labour? This is A-level economics we’re talking here, not Tardis science.


'Yea, fuck em, their paid quite well considering, how dare they expect to have any workers rights and be treated like human beings!'

Why is showing/highlighting inquality through a TV show something to be sneared at as the opinions of bearded hippies?

I remember, just about, when Dr Who got pulled in the 80's BEING TO VIOLENT was one of the reasons, wonder which areas of the media made that complaint?
:roll:


Really? I thought the main reason was that Grade just didn't like it?


Me too. Mary Whitehouse complained on behalf of a distressed nation about some of Tom Baker's episodes in the seventies (The Deadly Assassin was, I think, the start of it) but I don't remember any consternation during the 80s beyond the general 'Ye gods, it's a bit shit these days isn't it?'


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I think there were complains about the first Colin Baker season being too violent, which along with Grades distaste led to a "hiatus".


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From today's Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/nov/19/climate-sceptic-james-delingpole

Brilliant...


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This guy is just a tool. How in the hell he managed to get a degree at Oxford I'll never know? He is just a bog standard right wing village idiot. I've checked his blog (which produces a similar sensation to removing your eyes with some pliars, and polishing the exposed optic nerves with rusty barbed wire) and this is what I found:

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liberal satirists rarely do the job satirists are supposed to do because they invariably go for the lazy target. They’ll mock the “Christian right” or “the Moral Majority”, but never dangerous topics like political Islam, or, say, the wilder excesses of black American religious demagogues:


Some of that may be argubly true, but right wing "satirists" often pick on lazy targets, you know asylum seekers, single mums, poor people etc. So don't chuck stones in the old greenhouse mate.

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[shows like]The News Quiz, which appears to occupy a parallel universe in which Margaret Thatcher’s evil Conservatives are still in power and can only be defeated by the rapier put downs of Socialist comedian Jeremy Hardy.


original isn't he.

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When was the last time the extreme right caused significant damage to life, property, or anything else, ever? (And no. I’m certainly not allowing you the Nazis who were, of course, National Socialists).


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Remeber this guy.

Or this guy.

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or this guy:

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or how about this guy

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Right-wing extremism is a mythical left-liberal bogeyman, nothing more.


I'm sure all that shit that went down in Latin America in the 60s to the 80's was all just pretend. Tit


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Jeremy Hardy a socialist? Blimey, that passed me by entirely. But then made-up bollocks usually does.


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Oh my he uses the arguement of "national socialists" when mentioning the Nazi's.

I've never read much he's written but after that I'll never read the nutjob again.


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As soon as someone plays the "Hitler was a socialist! It was even in the party name!" card, they simply disqualify themselves from intelligent debate.


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I've always liked Chomsky's response to that sort of argument, which is to ask whether they also believe that the German Democratic Republic was democratic.


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Oh my he uses the arguement of "national socialists" when mentioning the Nazi's.

I've never read much he's written but after that I'll never read the nutjob again.


Its a bit like dictators who refer to their country as the democratic republic of .... :?

Just because the word is there dosn't mean it has the same meaning.

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I believe that Yes, Minister had that particular euphemism sussed a couple of decades ago. :)

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