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oboogie · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:07 pm

shyamz wrote:

There is a big difference between what just happened here, and someone going online and saying they genuinely want to kill a specific individual or group of people, for clearly (and of course usually wrong) defined reasons based on hate and their own perceivedsence of victimhood.

But the defence is the same, 'I didn't mean it', 'it was just a joke', why is that acceptable in one case and not the other?
As far as the NWI bloke is concerned we don't know whether he was serious or not, maybe it was just mouthing off or maybe it was, as you suggest, a serious threat. We'll never know for sure.

Obviously I don't believe for a second that Poncey or you genuinely intend harm to either Shaun Lock or Jedward. I was merely pointing out the similarity with behaviour we condemn when it's exhibited by other people.

ponce on the heath · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:09 pm

oboogie wrote:

ponce on the heath wrote:

Fair enough, poor judgement.

Quote:

A few months ago a NWI was imprisoned for threatening on Facebook to torch a Mosque because he "hates Pakis"
The judge did not accept his defence that he was "only joking".

A bit different, but I don't really want to get into an argument about it.

The material facts are the same.

The big difference to me is my own prejudice. To whit I'm more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to a member of Mailwatch than to a member of NWI.

The NWI's defence didn't work because it was a statement of intent by someone who is part of a hate group, and that statement was made directly at the people it targetted. What I said was a retrospective observation (quality notwithstanding) on a subject that was never meant to be taken seriously, let alone read by the person(s) in question. As I've said, it wasn't big or clever, but you had the moral high ground already without comparing me to a fascist.

oboogie · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:24 pm

ponce on the heath wrote:

As I've said, it wasn't big or clever, but you had the moral high ground already without comparing me to a fascist.

I wasn't comparing you to a fascist, I was comparing your language to the language used by a fascist and also your respective defences of your comments, there's an important distinction. I'm sure you're not happy with the similarities.

Bones McCoy · **Joined:** Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:08 am **Posts:** 7342

Abernathy wrote:

Andy McDandy wrote:

Say what you like about Michael Macintyre, at least he finds something new that's mundane and not particularly annoying to get faux annoyed about in each show.

Had to think about that for a moment. Say what I like about MacIntyre? Okay - seems to me he's a direly unfunny, but inexplicably successful and popular comedian.

The second part of your assessment is - and I've thought about this - indisputably true. I think he's getting faux-annoyed about Birds Eye fish fingers next week.

Don't forget the skipping, that never gets tiresome....

Danson's Forehead · **Joined:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:32 am **Posts:** 718

Well, this is all fun isn't it?

Anyway, for what it's worth, Sean Lock is probably my favourite comedian working today, and is the only reason I ever bother to watch '8 out of 10 Cats'. I'd be terribly grateful if you didn't burn him. And his sitcom, '18 Storeys High', was genius. "We want to go to Lisbon".

oboogie · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:17 pm

Danson's Forehead wrote:

Well, this is all fun isn't it?

Anyway, for what it's worth, Sean Lock is probably my favourite comedian working today, and is the only reason I ever bother to watch '8 out of 10 Cats'. I'd be terribly grateful if you didn't burn him. And his sitcom, '18 Storeys High', was genius. "We want to go to Lisbon".

I've never even heard of '18 Storeys High', when you say "his" does he write and star in it?
Pretty much agree on '8 out of 10 Cats', I don't usually bother with it anymore but, when I do, he's usually the only one who makes me laugh.

Danson's Forehead · **Joined:** Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:32 am **Posts:** 718

oboogie wrote:

I've never even heard of '18 Storeys High', when you say "his" does he write and star in it?

Yep. It was buried late-ish on BBC2 a fair few years ago.

shyamz · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:58 pm

I think you can still buy it on DVD, it wasn't too bad I thought - worth trying if you haven't seen it yet.

hel · **Posted:** Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:34 am

They must have added 3 storeys since I last saw it

Althea · **Posted:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:32 pm

Thursday's ep got moved to today.

Watching it now. That Greg Delaney (guy in the grey shirt?) is quite good. Very much a Stewart Francis/Milton Jones-type comedian.

sanityattack · **Joined:** Sun May 09, 2010 11:56 am **Posts:** 186

Marcus Brigstocke.

Unlikely lines from a war movie.

"Sir, new intelligence has come in from the letters page of the Daily Mail and it seems Herr Hitler has a point."

Kevin Clash · **Joined:** Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:32 am **Posts:** 141

Danson's Forehead wrote:

Well, this is all fun isn't it?

Anyway, for what it's worth, Sean Lock is probably my favourite comedian working today, and is the only reason I ever bother to watch '8 out of 10 Cats'. I'd be terribly grateful if you didn't burn him. And his sitcom, '18 Storeys High', was genius. "We want to go to Lisbon".

15 Storeys High is amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-WGGupQ8ng

mojojojo · **Joined:** Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:33 pm **Posts:** 4311

I've got the radio series of 15 Storeys High but I can't fins the site I got it from. Pretty sure it was legal too.

Squeaker · **Joined:** Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:23 pm **Posts:** 727

Chris Addison needs to button his shirt up.

That's all.

shyamz · **Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:10 pm

The poor lad does seem to have trouble finding one small enough to fit him, and not doing all the buttons up just makes them look even bigger.

Although it might be amusing for a few seconds to see him swap shirts with Greg Davies, just for comparison.

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